Lostwatch: Groundhog Day on Christmas Eve

"For instance: what's to stop Desmond from flashing back to some time before he met Penny? Or to the far future, after she's died, or he had a midlife crisis and left her for the nanny, or whatever?"

@James

The whole idea of finding a "constant" was to stop "traveling" all together. Because if he didn't he would die just like Minkowski. Desmond has only experienced "conscious time traveling" in two episodes. In last year's "Flashes Before Your Eyes" and last night's episode. The "flashes" he had of Charlie dying were a completely different matter. We saw what those looked like. They were like blurry puzzles.

So to answer what you intended as rhetorical questions: The fact is Desmond has known Penny for a good while and didn't travel before 1996. Maybe you can only go back so far in the past. And who even knows if he can flash to the future (even though we saw the mouse do it). The CONVENIENT part was Faraday working at Oxford, so Desmond didn't have to travel to far before blacking out again.

I don't blame anyone for not understanding everything in this episode. And I am not saying that I have all the facts straight. Because "The Constant" is definitly one that should be viewed more than once.

Comedic Relief. I laughed several times in this episode.

Juliet telling Faraday to talk "very slowly" so they wouldn't be confused.

Faraday thinking that Desmond is part of a prank in colleagues are pulling on him.

Faraday's hair.

Even Penny made me laugh when Desmond first came to her door.

I'm going to agree with James and believe that Faraday's memory loss comes from too many experiments without protecting his head. However, it could also be that he tried the experiment on himself and it went awry.

Why is Charlotte so untrusting of the castaways? Faraday seems to be just fine telling them anything but Charlotte is such a party pooper. I mean, does she believe that they're dangerous? She knows Jack doesn't care if she takes Ben...so that part is weird. She must have some hidden motives.

I think Faraday will become a main character from here on out. They always needed a scientist to help them figure out what was going on and to explain the phenomenal happenings within the context of the story. I would guess he'll be the means to explaining the monster once he gets a look at it.

I am beginning to agree with theorists who mention Widmore as one the big baddies on Lost. He seems to be going that way and Penny has always hinted her father was a bad man. He clearly knows a lot more about the island. I will interested to see if the Oceanic 6 see him as part of a flash forward.

The freighter friend is very resourceful. I don't think Michael was ever that resourceful. He was mostly a whiny Dad who couldn't protect Walt from the Others. Maybe killing two people was exactly what he needed to become resourceful and hardened. Still, covert-ops Michael is a stretch leading me to believe the spy is someone else.

Well that's all I got for now. I'm anxious to who the captain of the freighter will be and even more anxious to be introduced to the new station!

@Drew W - I think Widmore is the captain of the ship. We know from past epis that he is into boating and he was part of the story last night, and we know characters appear in certain episodes for a reason. And you are right, you can't be stranded on an island without a scientist. What would Gilligan's Island be without the professor?

@Chris Kw.:

"The "flashes" he had of Charlie dying were a completely different matter."

I'm not convinced of that. Different, yes. But completely? They must be directly related, no? After all, they began occurring immediately after Des' electromagnetism exposure in the Hatch. If they are not another manifestation of the same phenomenon, then there's an entirely separate *second* kind of unsticking-in-time that needs yet to be explained.

[UPDATE: Wait, I think I get what you're saying--that they weren't conscious, and thus not life-threatening. What I still don't get is why he managed to snap out of his *first* episode of unsticking without a constant. Guessing this has to do with the "exponential[?]" nature of his incidents, as Daniel described them--they get worse as they go along? I dunno. The whole concept of a "constant" still sounds more magick-y than scientific to me, but I'm willing to roll with it for now.]]

Now as for the constant stopping the flashing altogether, you may well be right. It just seems to me, purely from a story standpoint, that it would be surprising for Desmond's time issues to be a non-issue from this point forward. What a big thing to introduce and explain only to immediately "cure" him. But we'll see.

Anyway, I absolutely agree about this episode--I definitely wanted to re-watch after finishing, because I'm sure there's all KINDS of stuff I missed. (You look down at your laptop to type for a couple seconds with this show and you're screwed.)

@James

Like I said, I am theroizing just like anyone else and I probably need to watch this episode again. Sometimes writing in a Comments section isn't the best way to state ideas clearly. They get lost in "translation".

However, this episode proved to me that Damon and Carlton know how far into sci-fi arena they are willing to go. And at least they try to explain it with psedo-science. Heroes doesn't even attempt to do that.

Oh yeah. I remember another comic relief moment.

When Daniel said that he wouldn't know how the mouse died until after the autopsy. How does a physicist go about performing an autopsy on a mouse.

@Chris Kw., Likewise, I'm just guessing at this. It is interesting that Desmond hasn't had any flashes since Charlie and Claire-on-the-helicopter (right?). I wonder if he's done with them or not.

It's a great big ball of wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff.

I just wonder if the island might be acting as someone's constant... especially if that someone is often traveling between the island and the rest of the world.

Was that message from Walt to Locke a case of future Walt flashing back?

Amazing episode, totally involving. From Desmond wigging out on the helicopter to his call with Pen at the end Henry Ian Cusick commanded this episode. And all the other pieces fit in so well, I didn't miss the quips or those we didn't check in with, although I do wonder how Miles is doing with that grenade in his mouth (but I am sure they will deal with that next week.)

Ok, a couple of thoughts. The moment they see the freighter from the helicopter, was very powerful for me. The first tangible, reachable piece of the outside world that at least one of the 815ers was going to reach and we were going to see. After so many false hopes that had a big emotional hit even though they didn't play it up.

I posted a few weeks ago that Danial's issues's seemed more like the symptoms of a lightning strike or some other shock-overload brain damage rather than crazy, and I think this ep. proves that out. Not lightening but elecromagnetic/radiation issues. So does he screw up or is it accumulation of small repetative doses? The fact that he is pursuing this work from an academic perspective with no knowledge of the island raises some questions, at Oxford who is funding it, and if he is on his own path are we going to see in another flashback when it gets noticed by some people we've already seen, Hanso, Mittelos, Widmore, Maxwell (since stuff fro the game seems to be being mentioned in the last few episodes) who might not like anyone else playing in their sandbox?

James, I agree about Fisher Stevens, is it that they were mentioning him so much as a fakeout so that the audience wouldn't expect him to die or will we see more of him in the freighter folk flashbacks a la Libby?

My vote is for Frank to be "the friend" on the vote, I think it is getting clearer that his motivation for being on the island is to find out what happened to 815. And he might be the only one that's true for. As to who Ben's mole is, there was a lot of chatter about it being Charlotte or Miles but the radio was damaged after the helicopter left, so it can't be them, right?

And I loved Juliet and Jack, even the little we had of them was great. And didn't every one just yell at their tv's for Jack to shut-up when he interrupted Daniel? Although why did Jack look confused when Daniel asked if Desmond had encountered radiation or a magnetic pulse, what does Jack think that big explosion was that destroyed the hatch? I though they should have been looking like they didn't know whether to hide the fact of the hatch or not, not straight out confusion.

And I have no trouble admitting I was sitting on my phone saying pick up the phone Penny as that phone rang and rang, and absolutely loved their conversation, and the idea that love can be the constant that grounds someone to reality.

Ok and now my one sticking point, while I appreciate Team Lost wanting to stay away from the time-travel as reset button paradigm that so many shows abuse (Star Trek, Doctor Who, etc.) my question is this: Why would Desmond choose to be in a round the world boating contest if he has vague, scary memories of being pulled out of time and knowing it happened on an island in the Pacific? Wouldn't human nature be to stay as far from that part of the world as possible?

And of course that last bit should say sitting on my sofa, not sitting on my phone. Opps.

I want to follow up on what Dara said about Desmond "remembering" his conversation w/ Daniel in 1996 - why would he go on the boat race if in his "future" he ends up stranded on an island for three years?

A couple of things...

When Desmond and Daniel meet in 1996 Faraday says something to the effect of "it doesn't matter" when Desmond refers to the meeting as screwing up the future. I don't get that. Clearly at the end Desmond remembered his conversation with Penny about calling her 8 years later - doesn't he now remember meeting Faraday as well?

More importantly, Faraday must have remembered meeting Desmond in the past because he had that note in his journal about Desmond being his constant. (How did Daniel know way back when that he might go nuts?). So I don't get the whole "it doesn't matter" bit...

Also, rewatching Eggtown and the scene w/ Daniel and Charlotte - Charlotte clearly asks him "what do you remember"? I don't think it's precognition. What if that was a early hint that Daniel might be having some of these mind-travel's as well. What if Daniel knew he would end up on the island and have the conversation w/ Charlotte...?

Wow. I love Desmond-centric episodes...

And wait a minute. I'm just spit-balling here: what if Daniel was crying when he saw the 815 news on the TV because he had some vague sense in the back of his mind what the future was about to hold for him - that everything he was seeing in his brief mind-travels was about to come true?

I think that the official color for magnetic radiation is purple: The plastic and light around Farraday's beam he shined on the rat, the sky turned that color after the hatch, and let us not forget the master of magnetism, Magneto, wears a purple suit.

@James Couldn't it be argued that Charlie was Desmond's constant the first time? He saw him playing on the street and recognized him. That first time-shift seemed to leave Desmond with island consciousness (so he recognized Charlie) and last night's left him with 1996 consciousness (he didn't recognize Sayid) so that's why he needed a Constant from his past vs. from the island, if that makes sense.

I thought it was obvious who their friend on the boat is: Regina. She's the only freighter member we didn't meet and we already know she helps Daniel.

The biggest reveal in the episode, for me, was when Penny said "I know about the island, I've been researching it." This is big since, until now, it wasn't sure if any information about the island was available to those outside of Dharma. Although, if Daddy Widmore is associated with it all somehow, maybe that's how Penny got her info.

I forgot something I meant to ask everyone...

Faraday and Desmond saw each other earlier this season, right? Does anyone remember any interesting "looks" or anything like that? I have a vague recollection of Faraday having a strange recollection when he saw Desmond approaching from out of the jungle when they were all waiting at the helicopter...

Of course I'm crazy busy at work the morning after an AWESOME Lost....so this will be short.

I think Desmond's "flashes" on the island (and his jumping in "Flashes Before Your Eyes" are different because those occurred ON the island. In other words, the powers of the island prevented him from developing an aneuresym, or jumping while conscious, etc.

What that means is that the island is somehow surrounded by a force/power (the storm?) that can mess with your head/unstick you in time....perhaps.

The bigger point, though, is this: what effect does the trip THROUGH that barrier and off the island to the "real world" have on people? I mean, we've seen Hurley's "numbers" friend in the asylum, right? Could he have gone crazy due to leaving the island? Or was he taken off the island "safely" and just went crazy from punching in the numbers all day.

And what of Hurley himself? He's seeing visions of people (Charlie) who are dead....could Charlie's cryptic "I am dead. But I'm also here" indicate that Charlie is now "unstuck in time" too, able to appear in the future despite being dead? (I seem to recall Slaughterhouse Five limiting the conscious time travel to periods during the persons natural life, so wouldn't Charlie be violating that?)....is Jack's dad also unstuck in time and space? And what of Jacob? Is his "cabin" unstuck in time, and is that why he is able to offer advice, etc. to Ben (because he's seen the future)?

And I'll say it again - the Les Mis-meets-Last of the Mohicans ("I will find you") phone tete-a-tete between Desmond and Penny was phenomenal.

@Chaddogg "Les Mis-meets-Last of the Mohicans ("I will find you") phone tete-a-tete"

hahahaha, awesome.

I've been wondering about the island being surrounded by a barrier or a rip or a ripple or something for a while, but there is a safe way on and off. You just need to keep to a very specific bearing, which makes a submarine make all kinds of sense seeing as to what weather can be like going through it.

And it's been more than implied that up until recently (the hatch ex/implosion) people were taking it with no problems with being unstuck in time. Richard Alpert and Juliet, Ben's many passports, Other's thinking that the girls in the Looking Glass station were in Canada or something like that. Maybe that number punching was helping to hold things stable, but if so the Others were kind of taking a big risk in leaving it to one guy. Maybe they didn't understand the magnitude of the problem if it did blow up. So are these unstuck in time problems a result of the hatch explosion, or would they have happened before that if you went off the proper bearing?

I weep for this show.

When I saw the pilot episode, I instantly knew that this was one of the best pilots I had ever seen, and that this was the beginning of a groundbreakingly awesome show.

However, since that first season, we have met so many characters show up and quickly die, followed so many bizarre subplots, and witnessed so many unexplainable phenomenathat I'm having difficulty reconciling this hodgepodge-iness as one television show.

I was with everyone in the beginning; I loved the monster in the jungle and the polar bear, I loved the pirate ship and the folks on the other half of the plane, and even the others, who died before we could figure out exactly what it was they were doig on the island.

My initial theory for the direction of the show was that it would be a sorta supernatural Lord of the Flies adventure pitting the camp of Jack, the embodiment of science and rationalism, against the camp of Locke, embodying a cultish, spiritual devotion to the island. Jack's camp would struggle to find a way to escape, while Locke's camp would try to stop them, reasoning that keeping the island secret would be the only was to preserve it.

Instead, we get a thousand kinds of ghosts (I STILL THINK THEY'RE ALL DEAD AND THE ISLAND IS LIMBO!), telekenesis, time travel, premonitions, a thousand pre-crash connections between characters that are far too coincidental, a boatload (literally) of more characters when we haven't even fully fleshed out the one's we've already got, and still a billion other questions that remain unanswered from Season 1.

I had such high hopes for this show, but now when I watch it I feel like I'm being subjected to a 14 year old's first attempt at a screenplay with rewrites by his 22 year old brother who just finished Philosophy 101.

But maybe it will all make sense and come together in the end, and I will be exposed for the foresight-less ignoramus I am, and will mutter "touche" as I shuffle away. I would be fine with that.

James, I also thought that if Desmond wasn't part of the Oceanic Six, there would be some questions coming from Penny... but a friend pointed out that Des wasn't on the plane, so unless there was some re-working of the passenger manifest by TPTB, that wouldn't make sense.

Also wondering if the storm front surrounds the island in some way -- no matter what direction you travel outward from the island, you'll eventually encounter it. Which might mean that Michael and Walt would have encountered it-- likely harder to handle in a boat, but then the time-displacement features of the island would also conveniently explain why Walt grew over a foot in three months of island time.

Wonder if the rest of the folks on the island are aware it's Christmas eve. Seems like someone would be celebrating...

@john: duh, good point. Let me rephrase, then--if he manages to get off the island WITHOUT beeing one of the Oceanic 6, a la Ben, his time-shifting potential could prove interesting.

@Chaddogg - In Slaughterhouse V, the idea is that no one ever truly dies, because even after "death" we continue to survive in the moments in time before death, and can visit them whenever we wish. Basically it was a psychological disorder/coping mechanism that the protagonist developed to help him cope with the great amount of death and loss he had dealt with in life.

@John I'm not sure if boat travel encounters storms. Didn't Minkowski say that him and the other, body-bag guy take a small boat to see the island? It seemed that they weren't encumbered by the storm, just the "side-effects".

One other thing... I'm pretty sure there wasn't the typical "Previously on LOST" intro to the episode... have they been dropping those since the previous episode airs just before, or is that a statement that LOST is no longer for casual viewers -- it's TV for dedicated viewers?

John> When they have last week's episode played right before the new episode, is it really necessary to have a "Previously on LOST" segment.. ? just edit it out on the first showing (and sell more ad time) and add it back in for the rerun and later syndication

I love Lost if for no other reason than they made talking about the different theories of time travel cool (well, relatively).

I don't think 1996-12/24/04 Desmond would remember anything that "happened" in this episode because it was Christmas-Eve Desmond's mind that was in 1996 Desmond's body. So when he re-flashes to the future, he leaves his body behind and his past consciousness has no idea what just happened. That's why he still went on the race, because he *didn't* know he would end up on some island.

But what's so awesome about the episode was that it informed WHY Penny was so obsessed with finding Desmond. (Of course, all this ignores why Penny didn't ask Desmond what he was spewing about later on when they saw each other, like the stadium in LA. But no matter.)

And it might be just me, but was Penny wearing a wedding ring? If that's the case, it will make for a highly dramatic scene or two later on...

Matt> I was thinking that too in that scene.. but I think the ring may have been on her right hand. (I bet there are already screen shots of it up on a webforum somewhere already)

What, what an uninformative episode. Perhaps I should say, anti-informative episode - because after last night, there are a lot of causality assumptions we've been making that have to be tossed out the window, so we now know less than before.

Like this episode, this will be all over the place, as I can't find a good way to summarize. Let's start with the anti-information.

The time differential: More proof, as they leave at sunset and arrive 20 minutes later at noon!... Except we are given the impression that it is the 24th on the Island, on Not Penny's Boat, and in Penny's Apartment. That doesn't look like a time differential...

Except that, verified by Lostpedia's utterly reliable timeline, it's 12/24 (Island Time) when Desmond leaves on the chopper, 12/24 (Real World Time) 20 minutes later when they arrive on the boat (if we believe the calendar), and 12/26 (Island Time) that same day when Desmond calls the Island. Island time isn't faster, it's just two days ahead? Wha?

Unless the entire Desmond calling on Christmas Eve bit was staged for Desmond for some reason. The whole thing seemed forced and odd. Now it could just be bad writing, but look at what we saw:
Charles Widmore hates Desmond, yet instead of just giving him her number, gives him her address so he can have the emotional speech that ensures she'll take his call years later.
Minkowski seems like he'll be a major cast member, but conveniently suffers from Desmond's ailment and "dies", ensuring that Desmond makes his constant-call his number one priority.
Someone lets Desmond out of his "cell" to make the call.

Now, the only weird point is why, if in fact it isn't Christmas Eve in the Real World, would Penny leave her decorations up? But as she said this episode, she knows about the Island - does she know about the time differential and realize Desmond's "Christmas Eve" could literally be any time?

Not to mention the "I'll call you in 8 years. I'll wait for you!" seems to violate the spirit of Desmond and Penny's LA meeting after that. Did the writers do that bad a job, is this a new timeline, or are we missing something?

Causality: We can't rely on anything chronologically leading to anything else. For instance: for all we know, Ben's man on the boat is... Minkowski, who told Ben or some Other years ago in the past what is happening now. Ben's "there could be pregnant women on that plane" line isn't just Ben planning it or him realizing someone is plotting against him, it could now be "Minkowski's story has started". Or take Naomi's picture of Desmond- I've asked before "How can Naomi have a picture of Desmond if they didn't put him there?", but we now have a valid answer - because '96 Daniel knew Desmond was going to be on the Island and that he can not be harmed because of the risk of creating a paradox.
Simply put, anything that happened in the past may have another valid explanation - someone in the future caused it.

Of course, the rules for timesickness do seem to be pretty odd. We can see why Others and Desmond don't suffer from it in the past (because they were unconscious when they went through the barrier). We also have a valid reason for why Rousseau's group went crazy. But out of a plane full of Losties, none of them suffer from it? Did they just fly through the barrier quickly enough, is Island healing blocking the effect, or did my intentional 815 planners screen out anyone who would suffer from it?

On to the positive information.

The Lost Experience: I've been wondering how they were going to shoehorn in the vast backstory they covered in The Lost Experience into the show (a Dharma Initiation film for new executives?), but it looks like the answer is: in bits and pieces. And yes, Torvald or Torvo is new to the mythology.

Penny's calls are the showrunners retroactively explaining why/how Penny called an underwater hatch in the middle of the Pacific the minute the jamming went down. The showrunners' explanation is her arctic minions found the location of the Island from the Hatch blowing up and Penny has been auto-dialing the area ever since (yes, that makes no sense, it's their explanation, not mine).

Interesting note about Minkowski and company going crazy out of boredom. Just how long does it take to go crazy?
9 days (since Naomi's helicopter took off)
29 days or less(since the Hatch blew up/they find Michael, minus travel time to get close enough to the Island).
96 days or less(since 815 crashed, and they were sent to wait for distress calls/find the plane).

Yay, someone agrees with me! The "constant" is a very cool idea, and the actors pulled it off, but it doesn't really make sense that Faraday would extrapolate that from a dead lab rat. The poor thing...

The consciousness time-travel thing is sort of what they did on Quantum Leap, except that guy was traveling into a bunch of other people's bodies. He could only leap within his own lifetime, too. I know it's been used elsewhere as well, but for the life of me I can't think of where. Well, Lostpedia will have a whole list by noon.

Put me in the "Michael is on the boat" camp. As for him not being resourceful... Hello, raft? Rafts?

And how much would it suck to be Fisher Stevens flashing back to when he was sleeping with Michelle Pfieffer, but not being able to stay there!

@Matt, are you saying that Desmond, in 1996, after walking away from the house doesn't remember going to Penny's for the phone number or telling her that he won't call for 8 years? Or meeting Danial?
I don't know. Not remembering seems a paradox in itself.
I think I will need to go back and watch the Desmond episodes to see how this new information tallies with what we already were shown.

Now, if this is all leading up to the idea that there are power-players who use the islands out of timeness to control things (and wouldn't that in itself be creating the type of you can't change the future paradox's that L & C say they won't be doing) than maybe Widmore has been playing Desmond the whole time, or maybe he needs to make sure the future is kept on track because he has been informed somehow that Desmond get's unstuck from it and is somehow trying to safeguard it into happening. Sheesh, this stuff starts hurting my head after awhile.

One more thought on the magic vs. science of needing a Constant. It seems pretty clear to me that the Constant is a psychological (scientific) thing. Past-Daniel said the rat didn't know when it was, freaked out and died. But the psychological anchor that kept Desmond grounded stopped the freaking-out-and-dieing at the nosebleed level.

@Dara. Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

@Matt, hmmm, I'm going to have to think about that. Thanks.

I too heard the name "Torvalds" at the auction for the book (that better come back and be explained!). The name sounded familiar and this morning I realized that Linus Torvalds is the founder/creator of the Linux operating system.

What that would have to do with LOST, I have no idea, but I never discount anything.

Too many details for a busy day at work, but I'll throw in points as they come to mind:

-I don't think Michael is on the boat.

-I don't think Ben's man opened the door. I think Frank opened it, because he's Frank. And he's awesome.

-I don't think we've met Ben's man yet.

-I think the auction scene was EXTREMELY significant. It told us many details: 1) Pirates were able to get on and off the island somehow - were the pirates the initial Hostiles, or were the Black Rockigans the original Hostiles?; 2) the Hanzo Foundation went looking for the island because they had the first mate's log; 3) Hanzo possibly sent the Dharma Initiative to the island with the main purpose of testing the space-time effects (suuure... start a commune... live peacefully... don't mind us...) on people and different animals; 4) Papa Widmore - and many others - are interested in learning more about the island, and why the Hanzo foundation cares so much about it. I'm sure there are more, but these come to mind immediately.

-I think Sun's father was the phone bidder.

-So much for keeping it short and doing actual work today.

-I don't like that they had Daniel tell Desmond he needs to contact his constant. It seems like it would have made more sense to have Daniel tell Desmond he needs a constant, then NowDes takes out the picture of Penny and keeps staring at it, but it's not working. Then ArmyDes realizes that he needs to talk to her; but that's nitpicking a detail.

-Overall, I loved the episode. Yes, I am a sap and a sucker for a good emotional scene.

I hate to be Capt Negative here two weeks in a row but i wasn't wild about this episode. Sure there was some cool stuff and some unexpectedly answered questions but so much of it just felt way to over the top to me.
Faraday with his ridiculous hair and pink (pink, not purple) time travel ray seemed like something out of a bad syndicated sci-fi series on basic cable. And the whole "I love you" back and forth thing at the end just seemed cheesy to me. I mean once 2004-Des consciousness comes back to his body and they've established who one another is on the phone wouldn't he be saying, "We're trapped on this bloody island come rescue us!!!" ?
One of the key characteristics of Lost in my mind is the way in which they obfuscate and only give answers in an oblique way. But in last night's episode Faraday just spews out answers to all kinds of stuff (don't get me wrong it was cool to hear some answers) and it just seemed out of tune with the rest of the show. And the whole bit about "finding a constant" just seemed like the end of a Star Trek episode where Data and Gordi quickly explain the wacky science they used to solve this week's problem.
But general vibe stuff aside there was some cool stuff in this one.
I was pretty surprised when they actually saw and landed on the freighter in this episode. I was sure they'd spend the whole episode in the storm clouds while desmond flashed around. Almost everyone on the boat seems creepy (thought king creepy himself Fisher Stevens died too fast too soon [And come on! Fisher Stevens is on a freighter and he's not going to use computers to make it sink and spill its contents into the ocean?!]). Their general creepiness makes you wonder why they sent all the strokes out to the island while all the cynical muscular guys stayed on the boat.
Uh, mad props to me for being the 1st one to mention Slaughterhouse V here on the Tuned In boards, y'all didn't even respond to it at the time and here we are with Des unstuck in time, just sayin... = P
I don't think its going to be Michael on the boat, just doesn't make sense to me how the freighter crew would come to accept and trust him after picking him up out at sea, plus what about Walt? I suppose they could be stowaways, but i dunno just doesn't feel right to me. Although it would be interesting to see how Sayid would react to seeing him. On the one hand Michael killed fellow crash survivors and betrayed the group but on the other hand Mike did take out Ana Lucia who killed Shannon (thanks again AL) so maybe he wouldn't be that mad...
Oh and if Faraday thought that Des being exposed to a high level of radiation or electromagnetism caused his flashing around it makes one wonder what Minkowski and the guy he went on his pleasure cruise with were exposed to that triggered the same effects on them, or if exposure is even necessary if you venture off that one specific heading.

@carlos - "I mean once 2004-Des consciousness comes back to his body and they've established who one another is on the phone wouldn't he be saying, "We're trapped on this bloody island come rescue us!!!" ?"

Didn't Penny tell him she knows about the island and she's coming for/looking for him?

As for the cheesiness of it, I think this episode was meant as a brief relief for the fans. All the show does is bring up crazy questions upon crazy questions in this huge crazy Lost comic book world. Every once in a while they need to give the fans a breath of fresh air - in this case, some solid answers to VERY perplexing questions, and I think the Penny-Des connection will be extremely important to the end of the show, especially considering what we saw her father do in 1996. (Do you think he tricked Desmond into boating around the world to get him on the island?)

I agree to a point with Carlos and Tom Shaw. After the episode was over, I felt like it was all a little too convenient, with the Constant, etc. The cool-ass factor was high "I need you to go to Oxford and find me." but the sappy-ometer was off the charts. I excused the pilot for the Sawyer line "What I always do, surviving" but the Desmond/Penny phone call was a little too much for me.

I'm curious too as to the ramifications of the auction for that ship's log.

Also, with this unstuck in time theory, that doesn't explain the duplication of white rabbits with numbers painted on them that we saw in the Orchid Orientation video, or does it?

Dave, I think you are pretty off base with your auction guesses. According to the Lost Experience, Dharma is just a subsidiary of the Hanso Foundation. They already know what and where the Island is - but will show up at auctions to buy out anything that would allow other people to find out about their little plaything. Your timing is also way way off - the auction was in '96, Dharma was on The Island decades earlier.

You are correct though in noting that pirates had the book. Though we shouldn't assume that The Island's "shell" has always been there - it may just be a side effect of the Hatch experiments focusing whatever magnetic anomaly there was previously. It's possible that traffic to and from the Island was normal until Dharma set up shop.

@dave-
She did tell him that, you're right. I dunno i guess i just wanted him to look around the room for a map or just do something proactive rather than saying "I love you" a bunch.
Mr W very well could have tricked Des into the race, and if one were to run with that theory that could mean that Libby was an agent for Widmore. I know we haven't seen her in a while but i refuse to believe our glances of Libby in the past were just coinsidental, i mean she gives Des the boat, which leads to him being trapped on the island, which lead to him crashing the plane SHE WAS ON its too much to be all just accident to me. Plus she was in Hurley's mental institution and then gets romantically involved with him (tough luck Frogurt) i think there has to be more there.

Great episode, I think I need to rewatch it now after all these comments. I am thinking Whidmore must be involved somehow with the freighter, and that's how Penny got their number. But the crew must be under orders from daddy not to answer her calls.

I also thought it must be important somehow when Faraday mentions to Desmond, that you can't change the future. That always seems to come up in time travel movies, one thing you do can change the future. Like Back to the Future. (Ok, it's no Slaughterhouse 5, but work with me.) Any theories on that?

I'm thinking about Aaron now, in relation to what was said about Walt. And now we know for certain that time on the island does not run the same as off the island. Would it be possible that Kate could pass him off as her son, that she had BEFORE the island, in Australia or whatever. One of TPTB could arrive to "return" her son to her, after the whole "Oceanic 6 arrive home" stuff. Pretending to be the father, the guardian, whatever. I mean if Walt can have the growth spurt, why not Aaron? And he looked about 2-3ish in the last episode, as opposed to 3 months or so.

@Tom, Hanso didn't buy the book - Hanso sold the book. The auctioneer said the book had only been read by its previous owner, and mentioned the Hanso foundation (mind you I haven't gone back and watched that part again, but that's what I thought he said). I was under the impression that the Hansos had obtained the book after it was found, and they're now selling it.

Thinking back, what James heard as "Torvald" I may have heard as "Hanso".

@dave- it was both. Torvald (or whatever) Hanso was the books seller.

@Matt, and everyone else, ok I've been mulling, Desmond has his first time break in the middle of the big old storm, lot's of electricity flying around in something like that, and he flashes back to 96 and then THAT DESMOND comes forward, so he doesn't know where he is or recognize Sayid, etc. And then THAT DESMOND goes back and forth for the rest of the episode, leaving the consciousness of our present day Desmond out of the loop entirely. Right?
OK, then at the end he is with Penny and got her number and is in the middle of talking to Pen when he flashes back to this present and is repeating it over and over and when he takes the phone from Sayid he is still THAT DESMOND, we hear the phone ringing -- and the second to last scene from the past, is with the sound of the phone ringing over Desmond walking away and seeing Pen, upset closing the drapes and he looks very concerned. Cut to Desmond on the boat the phone still ringing, and when Pen answers wonder and relief across that bearded dirty face. Then the last cut to Desmond in 96 still walking away but with the same look of relief. It's only after Penny asks where he is, that his Island present self comes back you can see it play across his face as he remembers and tells her that he's been on an Island, and they make sure we see Sayids reaction to this change. But he says to her "you believed me".
Ok, so how can the Island present Desmond remember going for the phone number if the Desmond circa 96, THAT DESMOND who was flashing back and forth doesn't?

This was a good day not to have too much work to do!

Oh and I love Penny's line "All that and you're not going to write it down?"

Update: Lostpedia has an entry for a "Tovard Hanso" based on last night's episode. I also wasn't aware of the Magnus Hanso link either (I'm new to Lost, so even though I've watched every episode, I'm not well versed in all the lore quite yet).

Ok so a few questions i have about the time thing. Can it be that theres a time differential only when travelling is involved? They crashed on the island on the 26th september and now its the 24th december....thats 90 odd days, which sounds just about right, both on and off the island. Assuming the time differential was constant, 20min of real time translated last night into 1 day of island time. If it really is the 24th december outside, then the islanders should have been on the island well over two years now...?
Also, Ben's people went on and off the island quite often, Juliet being the most recent one i think, and nothing happend to them. can it be that it only affects people who have been subject to prologued electromagnetic radiation? (desmond having survived the "blast", and minkowski because he was stuck day and night in a room full of radiation equipment?)
To comment on another discussion going on here, it makes sense that Penny's dad is the captain, it sounds like the people on the boat knew exactly who Penny was and were instructed to ignore her.

@s_t_g_r I don't think Daddy Widmore is the captain. It was my assumption that Minkowski broke the rules and answered one of Penny's calls and that's how he knows who she is. There's also the still unexplained fact that Naomi had a picture of Desmond with her, that's more than just a phone call to the freighter.

I don't think we've seen the last of Daddy Widmore this season, but I don't think he'll end up being the captain. Seems like he'd travel with a little more style.

Oh and i forgot: I think the Torvald Hanso's ship log has something to do with the boat being on the island....and maybe why its staying well away of the "magnetic field" surrounding the island.
And this brings me to the following question: When Mike and walt left the island they surely werent following any bearings, but they havent shown us anything more from them, so it makes me think that they didnt have any problems.

I am happy that the numbers are back. 2.342? Now the last two numbers have significance with respect to the "time travel" elements.

Also, I do think that to Eloise, Daniel's light must have looked pretty much just like the sky turning purple. To me it was eerily similar to the purple color when the hatch imploded.

@Dara - I think 1996 Desmond couldn't remember going for the number because the 1996 Desmond that we saw last night hadn't gone for the number UNTIL then.

I think the "inconsistency" argument regarding Desmond is actually pretty easy. Island-2004-Desmond knows he has to call Penny on December 24, 2004 (because 1996 Desmond came to know that), but he's on the island so he has no idea how that'll happen. He gets on the helicopter, it hits the storm, and he loses his 2004 consciousness, which is replaced with a 1996 consciousness that (up to that point) had no knowledge of the island. That 1996 consciousness then starts having dreams/visions, etc. which are of 1996 consciousness now on the freighter. Unified Desmond (both in 1996 and in 2004) has no idea what it's doing in both times or what it needs to do.

Daniel tells Desmond in 2004 (which has 1996 consciousness, remember) to go to Oxford, etc. In 1996, Desmond does so, and learns of the need for a constant. 1996 Desmond gets Penny's number.

In 2004, Desmond (still with 1996 consciousness) picks up the phone and calls Penny. Penny answers, and WHOOSH 1996 consciousness is replaced with 2004 consciousness.

Wait a minute. I just went back and watched "The Economist", which I think is the first time Desmond and Daniel see each other on the island. My post earlier is wrong - there was absolutely NO recognition by either Daniel or Desmond of one another. Even assuming Chaddog's explanation in the post above is correct, that doesn't explain how island-Daniel doesn't remember Desmond, even though he met him in 1996 (and a pretty memorable meeting at that). That just doesn't make sense - there has to be some kind of timeline effect.

@antilles - nor does it explain how 2004-consciousness Desmond didn't recognize Daniel.

Maybe the whole consciousness time-travel idea is that while your consciousness time travels, it doesn't change the past or the future. Thus, Desmond never really met Daniel in the past, never got Penny's number, never promised to call, etc. All of that was post-hoc "created" in the present-2004 time.

Thus, when Desmond first encounters Daniel by the chopper, nothing in the past had happened yet. None of it happened in the past until the next day, when he jumped around and did it all. Thus, the day before Desmond arrived on the freighter, Penny wasn't expecting a Christmas 2004 call from Desmond (this helps explain why she found him in LA by the track). Daniel had never met Desmond, etc.

Then Desmond goes on his time travel adventure, and his PRESENT SELF changes the PAST. He tells Penny he'll call her in 8 years, he meets Daniel, etc. All of a sudden, Penny (who wasn't yet expecting a call) suddenly "remembers" a promise in the past to call. And Daniel "discovers" a page in his journal that he wrote "years ago" (but in a time-detached reality didn't appear until that moment) that Desmond was his constant.

Interestingly, this could explain Daniel's "you can't change the future" line and Desmond's flashes -- you can't change what happens in the future, but in the future you can change the past (i.e. how you get there).

(Wow...my head hurts.)

@s_t_g_r - "When Mike and walt left the island they surely werent following any bearings, but they havent shown us anything more from them, so it makes me think that they didnt have any problems."

They were given a boat and the bearings to follow by the Others for delivering Jack and the others to them.

Memory loss. Time (or the universe, or whatever) doesn't let you remember meeting people you haven't met yet. Or 1 out of 3 playing cards. Presto!

@Chaddog - see, that's the only explanation I can come up with too, that the past has changed and now they just "remember it." That seems to fit all the "pieces" together - including why Daniel all of sudden goes scrambling through his notebook for a reference to Desmond (one that appeared to be written in red ink over previous notes; it's like it just appeared in the journal). I just don't like it. I don't like time travel screwing up storylines - it's always used as a convenient scapegoat to fix something the writers now want to change. In the words of Cuba Gooding, Jr. from "Jerry McGuire," "that's an answer" (implying, of course, that it's not a very good answer). Continuity goes out the window.

For example, in my mind I can't reconcile Penny's reaction to seeing Desmond in 1996 with the Penny we saw before - when (and this was AFTER 1996 in our original timeline) she chased Desmond halfway around the world to a track in southern California. First she doesn't want anything to do with him and is reluctant to give out her phone number, then she's chasing him around the globe?! That doesn't make sense at all, unless Penny had no knowlege of the 1996 conversation until 2004. But the conversation at the track is already part of the storyline, and this mind/time-travel is a way to get around it.

Am I making any sense today?

In general, I have a hard time getting onboard the big conspiracy theories about Hanso, Widmore, or whomever controlling everybody's actions. But Charles Widmore buying the Black Rock Hanso ledger was an awesome "moving pieces into place" move.

2 things about the Orchid Station video that I hope I'm remembering correctly-- Wasn't the bunny jumping around in space and time? Also, wasn't there a reference to Minkowski time/space? Perhaps this won't be the end of Fisher Stevens.

@chaddog: I like your reasoning at the end there, about not changing the future but being able to change the past. When I re-watched the last scene, I was wondering if Daniel has now broken this rule by writing a note to himself in the future.

Chaddogg,

I've been mulling over the wording for an hour to express what you said. I so wanted to post a coherent theory before you. I've been trumped--but by the best!

But how to explain Naomi carrying Des's picture? She wouldn't be aware of any Des/Faraday connection because the connection hadn't happened yet.

@antilles - well, did Penny going to Desmond at the track make sense BEFORE last night's episode? I mean, this was a guy who dumped her and joined the army. Why would she go there? Obviously between 1996 and then (which was, what? 2000? Do we know?) something changed...she realized that Desmond did love her, or that her father played a role in crushing his love, etc. I don't think Desmond's time travel adventure has any implication on that change, really.

@LRE - I don't think Daniel broke the rule at all. Daniel-1996 didn't break the rule and change the future; 2004-Daniel's actions changed the PAST, making his 1996-self write a note. So it wasn't the past changing the future, it was the future/present changing the past.

@Gerry - I think the picture is independent. We know that Naomi's people/employers know a LOT about the island...why wouldn't they know that Desmond was there and provide her with a picture?

And if Widmore is "employer" of Abbadon, etc., than maybe he provided the picture - evidence of who to "leave" on the island at all costs, or a picture of a secondary target (to Ben) that he would like killed, or the face of a man they should bring back to the real world if they find him for his daughter....

@chaddog: Okay, so you're saying that Daniel is remembering to look for a note in his journal, rather than writing a note that he'll discover in the future?

@LRE or is he just now remembering a note he wrote in 1996 that his 2004 self didn't remember writing. (because he hadn't until his current actions prompted his past self to write it)

As a more amateur watcher than the clear experts here, a little nervous about posting, but I did have a thought that came to me while reading the comments.

I think that the possible theory that Walt, Charlie, Jack's father, and Jacob are possibly suffering from this time-sticking (or unsticking) thing is somewhat problematic. As far as I understood from last night's episode Desmond's consciousness is travelling back fourth between his bodies at different moments in time. Desmond A is leaving his body in 1996 (leaving a body in an empty catatonic state) arriving in Desmond B (2004). When he subsequently is done in 2004 Desmond B enters a catatonic state exactly like the one Desmond A suffered from when his consciousness decides to go through a journey through time and space.
But in both cases a physical body is present. Desmond isn't just appearing and disappearing in the different times unlike Walt, Charlie, etc.

I don't know how any of this fits into Demonds psychic abilities as far as Charie. Was this a case of Desmond B travelling to a Desmond C (in the near future)? This seems to be connected but unlikely. Desmond's dreaming seems to be far too variant that what seems to be a very structured journey he was taking yesterday.

Just a thought.

I also had a couple of questions. I missed what Faraday said when Desmond woke up in the chair in his office. How long was Desmond out for when he experienced 5 min. in the time of Desmond B (2004)?
Also, just curious if Penny's phone # and the scientinfic numbers Faraday was working with have any specific significance?

@Chaddogg and antilles I did my breakdown of the last Desmond scene in response to something Matt had said, but this is one of those things that the more I hear what other people are getting from seeing the same thing the more muddled I get so I am still not sure what I think about Desmond (wow, I love Lost!)...
BUT I really think that the reason Daniel didn't recognize Desmond could simply be that whatever he is messing around with is screwing with his memory. Some form of brain-damage, not crazy, and not unstuck in time, at least not yet. My memory is really, really bad and even without being near any weird radiation I didn't recognize an ex-roommate who had long hair and scruff because when I knew him 5 years earlier he was completely clean-shaven with very short hair and I had shared an apartment with him for 6 months, so I will believe a lot when it comes to bad memory. I think that Daniel could easily have written that thing about Desmond in his journal as a precaution and then over the course of time lost the memory so that if he passed by it he wouldn't be sure what it meant, and really how often do you look at old journals. But something made him decide to bring that one with him. And him finding it at the end was proof and a reminder, an aid to memory, to him that it had indeed happened.

@arthistory- i think faraday said 70 (or maybe 75) min
and i agree with Dara about the whole lack of recognition thing

@Dara - or Daniel finding that notebook was actually sudden realization/enlightenment (created by Desmond completing his time-jumping) when his 2004-memory became "upgraded" with knowledge of meeting Desmond in 1996 and writing the note back then, etc....

Oh and Chaddogg I agree with you I don't think we've seen yet (but I think we will) what made Penny start looking for Desmond. But it could be that her shift to a sense of concern about him and his situation could have started from his visit to her. And I was looking in Lostpedia, he wrote her letters that she didn't get, but then she came after him. So as far as what we've already been told he has stuck to his promise to not call her. Tenses get so complicated when you are trying to write things down about time travel!

There is another book that had a similar time travel conceit. Unfortunatel, I can't remember what it's called, only that I read it when I was in middle or elementary school and it involved folks from the future taking over peoples minds in the past so they could see what happaned. In this particular book they took over the minds of 2 people on the Island of Atlantis and watched it's final days.

Books seem to play a large role and I think they hide quite a bit of information. Along with VALIS on Ben's book shelf from Eggtown was Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clarke a novel I really think could have ties to this show.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood%27s_End

@carlos: Indeed.

@Dara: I assumed after last night that we had the rationale for them staying in touch. He's promised to call her in the future, so now there's hope for both of them.

But then what did Charles Widmore mean when he said Penny would tell Desmond herself? Also, did he leave the water running in the sink on purpose? Did he know about Desmond's time-jumping? And was it initiated by putting Desmond into a trance?

Who cares what it all means or where it's all going, it is one great, big rush, a sleigh ride down a steep mountain road without the horses, a Colorado River raft trip without a tiller, a helicopter with a messed up tail rotor, that's why I love it. While I enjoy trying to puzzle out the "Lost" science and I have my theories, life is too short to even spend much time thinking about it, just go spend my hour every Thursday night and shut off the part of my brain that screams reality and enjoy!

P.S.
did you folks who were frustrated with the birds-eye view that was promised and not delivered of the island notice that we got one of the freighter?

Re: time travel of the conscious: Jack Finney wrote the quintessential time travel book: "Time & Again," published I believe in 1971. His protagonist learns how to travel back to NYC of the late 19th century through self-hypnosis and we the readers are treated to a first person account of life in pre-Trump NYC.

In my mind (geek wannabe that I am) I always considered that if one were to actually time travel, this is the only way to go -- and this from a follower of worm hole technology (see? Geek wannabe)...

I don't think we've seen the last of Mikowski (sp) -- after all, I am sure that wherever he went, he ran into one of the 815 gang and plays yet another pivotal role in one (or more) of their lives.

The Constant = Best Lost ever. To quote the Bard of Lost Island: Dude. That was friggin' awesome.

As an uberfan of the show, I'm going to try to defend some accusations against it.

James - you said it was too convenient that Penny was his constant. I think you're misreading the constant as being something absolute - like Penny was ordained by God as his constant, but more simply, she was a psychic link that was appropriate, strong enough, and available. The only convenient part was that Desmond didn't flash back to a time before he knew her, in which case he would have died because there wasn't another available constant. BUT, in "Flashes before you eyes," he flashed back 8 years to 1996 and broke up with Penny. And in "The Constant," I believe he flashed back another 8 years, weeks after breaking up with Penny and joining the army. The 8 years is a constant as well, and 8 is one of the numbers.

To Treacher - 1. scientists extrapolate data from rats all the time for cancer research and anything else related to humans. The theory being that rats have closely related physiologies to humans, but experience effects much faster. 2. do you really think Minkowski got nose bleeds and died from an aneurism simply because he was jumping from one POV to another? I think it's fair to assume that there were other biological side effects related to the jumping that killed her. So while the rat may not have been intellectually shocked to see a different setting of his cage, there's still a schism occurring in its brain.

scientists extrapolate data from rats all the time for cancer research and anything else related to humans.

Well, yeah. By keeping them in cages. Which doesn't make for a very eventful life, I wouldn't think, even for a rat. And that's putting aside the question of how a rat would even know the difference between yesterday and tomorrow in the first place. Hence: How would a lab rat get "time shock"?

do you really think Minkowski got nose bleeds and died from an aneurism simply because he was jumping from one POV to another?

If not, then why would calling up your old girlfriend cure it? That's what we're led to believe.

Dude, I know you have it out for Lost, but this is the epitome of nitpicking. There are leaps of faith required for any show, considering the inability to explain the scientific details in an hour-long show anyway. The "constant" is not nearly as big a leap of faith as say, "jumping," in Battlestar Galactica. But you refuse to let it go, in a weak attempt to accuse the writing of being bad.

If you can't fathom a link between psychological and biological symptoms, consider "Broken Heart Syndrome," or Takotsubo cardiomyopathy. The cure for which could be completely psychological.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takotsubo_cardiomyopathy
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/09/health/main672774.shtml

"Have it out for Lost"? I love Lost! But that doesn't mean I'm blind to its flaws. I'm not saying the show is ruined because they made a mistake. I'm just saying they made a mistake. It'll be okay, bun-bun.

@Doug Jack: What I meant (and actually, I'm pretty sure, what I said) was not that it was convenient that PENNY was Desmond's "constant," but rather that Desmond needed a "constant" at all. Even by the standards of the time-travel "science" that's I'm willing to accept in the name of willing suspension of disbelief, the explanation of the need for it--that finding someone/something that existed in both times would somehow render the time shifts less insane-making) was pretty thin. (It also makes me wonder how Daniel knew there was a need for a constant, and that it was likely to work. Had he also experiemented on humans? Himself, perhaps?) It seemed like a pretty transparent invention in the name of setting up an emotional climax, and the transparency of it took me out of the story a little. Not a fatal flaw, in any case.

Bun-bun? Sorry, I just read both this blog and Sepinwall, and you seem to end all your posts with something along the lines of "well that's Lost-logic for ya."

Anyway, can't really argue with what you said, James. I know the show makes mistakes, of logic, geographic detail, continuity, etc. I'm not blind to them, either. And now that you've re-explained your problem with the "constant," I kind of agree. But Lost always gets reamed for small details that most other shows could easily get away with, and I just loved the episode so much that I guess I felt the fanboyish need to defend it this time.

And yeah, the idea of the "constant" is kind of thin, but at least there's an internal logic to it, as opposed to some magic spell or special blood. (Sorry, I really do love Buffy and BSG).

Bun-bun?

You'd prefer sweetie-pie?

Sorry, I just read both this blog and Sepinwall, and you seem to end all your posts with something along the lines of "well that's Lost-logic for ya."

I don't think I actually do, but thanks for reading. (I've also been doing a live-blog every Thursday night here, where I do plenty more nitpicking that would probably annoy you.)

Look: We're led to believe that Faraday focused his time-ray thingamabob (set to 2.342 and 11 Hz, of course) on a little lab rat named Eloise, and that it caused her consciousness to be replaced by her own consciousness from at least an hour in the future. Then she ran a maze that Faraday hadn't taught her how to run yet. Then she died.

Faraday somehow extrapolated from this that FutureEloise was so messed up by the time-jump -- however many hours into her past it was, and presumably within the same room if not the same cage -- that it killed her because she didn't have a "constant." It just seems like a pretty big leap of logic, even for a purported genius like Faraday.

The writers took a shortcut to connect the Desmond/Penny love story with his ongoing unstuck-in-time story. And it worked so well that it didn't occur to me until an hour later (hey, time-jump!) that it didn't really make sense. I just thought that was interesting. I don't "have it out for Lost." Nobody's trying to hurt your TV show.

"Have it out for Lost." Wrong word choice on my part, Treacher, sorry. Not that I should assume stuff from what I vaguely remember about another poster's comments anyway. I went a bit overboard with the lost defender role. The writers don't need some obscure poster defending the show from some other obscure poster. Thanks for the condescension, by the way.

The rat logic didn't convince you, that's obvious. Anyway, I'm done. See ya next week!

Thanks for the condescension, by the way.

You're welcome. When somebody starts ascribing motives to me and accusing me of doing stuff I'm not doing, it tends to flip the sarcasm switch. You'll be okay.

Black Rock's first mate's log has information as to how to reach the island, which is how Alvar Hanso (of the Hanso Foundation who funded the Darma Initiative) found the island to send people to study it. I guess Alvar died and whoever Torvald is (his brother maybe) decided to sell the journal (either cause he doesn't know about the island, doesn't care, or doesn't want the headache since the entire Darma Initiative was killed off). Charles Widmore is also searching for the island to study its powers. Charles Widmore is who sent the boat. That's why Naomi had a picture of Desmond, because Widmore knew Desmond was on the island and they may run into him so he gave Naomi a picture to recognize him by (maybe with orders to kill him). And that's also why Penelope is calling the boat cause she discovered her father sent it to find the island and of course her father then ordered them to ignore the calls (Charles Widmore may be the Captain of the boat, another reason Pen is calling he boat). The reason Charles Widmore knows Desmond is on the island is because he set up Desmond to end up on the island. He staged the "boat race around the world" and intentionally set the course to cut across where the journal said the island was. When Desmond disappeared he knew he was onto something. Also, Charles Widmore sent Libby to run into Desmond and conveniently supply him with a boat so that he could participate in the race. A race which Widmore knew Desmond couldn't resist because Widmore had gone to great lengths to make sure Desmond hated him with a passion, i.e., intercepting all his letters to Pen while in prison.

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