A Campaign Scandal Nipped...

AMC re: your question below - ie: see above.

Karen, go ahead and just take the rest of the day off.

KT here--

Sorry, guys. I just thought it was sort of funny. But since you mention it, I do have a ticket to see Lyle Lovett tonight, so I'm cutting out.

Oh my God. The "terrorist fist jab". Again. Some more. Please, Karen, may I have another?

Tell me one thing, though, seriously, tell me, afterward, was the kid "bitter"?

I really thing this should be explored more. There has to be at least 2 a good 3 days worth of posts and coverage in it.

Nipped or not? We'll see. Maureen Dowd has already used it.

There have been any number of campaign scandals that were shown to be unfounded and had a huge impact nonetheless. Karen, you had first hand experience with one of the reams of Gore examples of this phenomenon (the Love Story flap). Kerry took huge amount of flack on the Nascar quote he never said; even the actual tape of his comments wasn't enough to quell the story.

KT,

You're better than this....

Folks, don't be hard on Karen. She's passing on the debunking of a bogus story. That's always a good thing, in my book. Thanks, Karen.

Personally, I'm all for snark and mockery and light-heartedness on blogs.

But after eleventy-four posts on "Clarkgate", no one wants to get McCain's reaction to the revelation that the torture I mean "enhanced interrogation" he voted for was specifically designed to extract false confessions from American POWs? The ironical symmetry there doesn't catch the eye of one our pixel-stained wretches?

'...picked up in a mass e-mail by the Republican National Committee'.

Seriously??? Please share with us what the RNC had to say.

The 2008 campaign is only getting started. This is going to be wild.

So, I guess Ingrid Betancourt is now qualified to be President of the United States, too. Or at least, Columbia.

Should be start a pool to see how long before the McCain campaign somehow manages to take credit for her release without actually, you know, taking credit for her release.

Oy.

That picture of George H.W. Bush doing a "terrorist fist jab" with a tennis player was kind of funny.

To make a serious point, how can we take the media seriously when they consider Fox News and the Washington Times colleagues?

"The brouhaha (which was quickly picked up in a mass e-mail by the Republican National Committee)..."

Does the RNC have any comments on Maureen Dowd's disclosure in her column today that the Bush campaign in 2000 insinuated that McCain attempted suicide twice as a POW?

picked up in a mass e-mail by the Republican National Committee'

So a pool reporter posted something that was simply false but it is now already been distributed in a mass e-mail.

hmmmmm....

It's so unlike the RNC to be spreading lies isn't it?

Does anyone know who the "pool reporter" was/is? Good lord, The TradMed in this country is getting dumber by the moment.

"It's so unlike the RNC to be spreading lies isn't it?"

Paul,

I was thinking the same thing. The RNC must have some sort of loose cannon over there. I'm sure the person will be severely dealt with. I mean forgetting to get rid of the audio is pretty lame.

When will we see an article about all of the Democrats in Congress who own huge amounts of stock ownership in the Oil Companies? Who are voting against or will not allow a vote to drill for oil off-shore.

Doesn't that smack of conflict of interest?

Karen:

You didn't distort the facts into something beyond recognition.

You might want to toss the story to Jay N-S, who's evidently able to do that sort of thing in her sleep.

We need to create a [snark][/snark] tag or something. Internet postings have the ability of stripping away any intended scarcasm.

Funny up until the point you find out that someone is pointing the exact same statment with a scary amount of ernest seriousnes.

Hmmmm...which should be a bigger story:

a) Resolving different accounts about whether Obama dissed a potential fist-bumping fan

or

b) Resolving different accounts about whether John McCain physically assaulted a diplomat in 1987. The account that says he did, comes from a Republican senator by the way.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25495610/#storyContinued

But, hey, as long as the BBQ is well-cooked the media might just ignore the elephant in the room...does any one really trust this hot-tempered maniac anywhere near a nuclear launch code?

OK, it's almost the end of a short week so the troll-feeding prohibition is suspended.

Rustybitch, if we accept your claim of stock ownership they voted AGAINST their own interests. A "conflict of interest" (and I'm not surprised you don't get this) is when they vote WITH their own self-interest. Offshore drilling would be GOOD for the oil companies – why do you think Emperor Bush is in favor?

Ronnie White is right… you can't fix stupid.

"Does the RNC have any comments on Maureen Dowd's disclosure in her column today that the Bush campaign in 2000 insinuated that McCain attempted suicide twice as a POW?"

Bless her heart...and she decided to withhold this information until now? Lovely! Sassy! I guess it takes a few years to think up a relevant Heidi Montag reference in this story.

Is Karen Tumulty a red head?

Remind me again why it's a good thing that Drudge rules the world of our Beltway media?

Fist bumb, but no:

ABC News’ David Wright reports that when he asked John McCain to “explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the presidency,” McCain “became visibly angry”:

McCain became visibly angry when I asked him to explain how his Vietnam experience prepared him for the Presidency.

“Please,” he said, recoiling back in his seat in distaste at the very question.

McCain allies Sen. Lindsey Graham stepped in to rescue him. Graham expressed admiration for McCain’s stance on the treatment of detainees in US custody.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/mccain-in-colom.html

I'm a redhead. It doesn't disqualify you from also having a brain. MoDo's problem is her High Priestess Status in the Village. She thinks, like Mike Sherer, that it entitles her to look down her nose at the hippies.

Another campaign scandal nixed...or rather ignored by the MSM:

"The co-host of a recent top-dollar fundraiser for Sen. John McCain oversaw the payment of roughly $1.7 million to a Colombian paramilitary group that is today designated a terrorist organization by the United States.

Carl H. Lindner Jr., the billionaire Cincinnati businessman, was CEO of Chiquita Brands International from 1984 to 2001, and remained on the company's board of directors until May 2002. Beginning under his tenure, Chiquita executives paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia (known by the Spanish acronym AUC), which is described by George Washington University's National Security Archive as an "illegal right-wing anti-guerrilla group tied to many of the country's most notorious civilian massacres."

Boy, the United Fruit Company just doesn't give up!

For more background on the story Cincinnatus posted, I recommend this story:

It was here, in northern Colombia’s lush banana-growing region, that Chiquita Brands International, the $655 million fruit giant, slipped into a blood-soaked scandal. Between 1997 and 2004, Chiquita gave $1.7 million to the A.U.C., whose death squads destroyed unions, terrorized workers, and killed thousands of civilians. Chiquita’s top officials ­admit approving the payments but say they thought that if they didn’t pay up, the A.U.C. would kill its employees and attack its facilities. Because the U.S. State Department has labeled the A.U.C. a terrorist organization, federal prosecutors charged Chiquita in March with engaging in transactions with terrorists. In an agreement with the Justice Department, Chiquita pleaded guilty and will pay a $25 million fine.

But the company’s troubles haven’t ended there. The Justice Department has been investigating the half-dozen executives who approved the payments and is weighing the possibility of charging them as individuals. At press time, Chiquita lawyers expected prosecutors to present their findings to a federal judge by September 17, when the company was to be formally sentenced.

http://www.portfolio.com/news-markets/international-news/portfolio/2007/09/17/Chiquita-Death-Squads

Does anyone know how old Barack "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country" Obama was when he first learned how to perform his terrorist fist bump?

Thanks KT for reminding me why this country has been driven into a ditch. This is the kind of thing the media pays attention to.

Congratulations to texte. He's achieved self-parody.

Did Chiquita give the terrorists fist bumps though?

60 Minutes have done a couple of stories on this. I don't they're really old folks but they are MSM so it's not been totally ignored.

Chiquita, the company formerly know as United Fruit Company, has been in the death squad business for some time, even before Guatamala, and it's responsible for the term 'banana republic' I believe.

I was just watching NBC news which featured the Bush fist bump with the boy, started to ruminate about how sorry news reporting in this day is, came here and see this.

What has it come to? This shallow, meaningless crap dominates, crushes, overshadows major issues. Why??

I think Bush is the worst president in history. But recently, I agree with him on the overblown, absurd, outrageious, new GI Bill. Only time I have agree with him on anything. Please spare me with responses about Supporting Our Troops, another bogus issue.

Can the press take the lead? Can we have insight to the economy, foreign policy, the pursuit of life, liberty, and happyness? Why is Bush so reviled, how can it be prevented.

The news media is fixated on shallow, simpleminded, dancing with the stars nonsense. Our country needs better, more insightful discussion, to survive. What has been happening will be our end, the fall of another empire. The news media is full of nothing, fluf, nothing. I need to go take a pill (not really).

Yeah.. Rome crumbling down around you - and your big issue du jour is a "outrageious" (sic) GI Bill?

Talk about being floor-poundingly myopic.

thanks, KT, for knocking this down. Now can you pass the transcript of Clark's MTP appearance onto Joe, Jay and Michael?

This is actually a good debunking of a much-repeated ridiculous lying story that virtually the entire media flogged yesterday despite it being completely non-factual. Kudos to KT, however, it won't change the media narrative nor materially alter the already wide acceptance of the untrue story because of the untrue propaganda, willfully put forward by an incompetent media.

Yeah, patroclus, I know, I agree. I would agree more if KT had put more emphasis on how meaningless the fist bump issue has been.

Interloper, will you be my mentor, guide me, help me to not type so fast? Wonderful, insightful response. Not.

Somehow I don't think it's your fast typing that's the problem here...

I'm just saying there's a million and one different and very valid clusterf**king things go on right now and that's the one that's got your panties in a wad?

Something tells me if you ever had to pick shrapnel out of your hide you'd be chirping a much different tune.

It's the absolute least the government can do for you after it gets done with you.

Interloper, again, please be my mentor. Explain how to pick shrapnel out of my hide.

Did you notice my plea to spare me the Support Our Troops crap? Or do you speed read like I fast type?

The government took me, was done with me, and paid me a nice GI Bill, which was a shack compared to the current mansion. Back then, the government actually took people. Not anymore.

Go back and read what I wrote (if your momma isn't reading it to you). You have answered my question about how things can be better in our country. You are testiment that it maybe can't be.

Posted by FlownOver | July 2, 2008 5:42 PM
Rustybitch, if we accept your claim of stock ownership they voted AGAINST their own interests. A "conflict of interest" (and I'm not surprised you don't get this) is when they vote WITH their own self-interest. Offshore drilling would be GOOD for the oil companies – why do you think Emperor Bush is in favor?

Ohhhh, wow you are so smart, as well as crude. Ever hear of voting against something that you have investments in, watch the price of oil continue to escalate and make more because of the speculators? Maybe, wisesage, if we did drill or VOTE to drill the price just might take a huge nose dive. Ever think of that Einstein?

But, I am sure you also believe in the tooth-fairy, and that ALL Democrats in Congress could never be that evil.

Guess what? John Kerry is one of the biggest investors in Oil Company stock in either the house or senate.

"There was much clucking in the media today over the significance of..." typical bullshiat.

I thought the working hypothesis among the Swampland writers was that the media isn't biased towards McCain? This HORSE SHIAT gets them buzzing, but we can't do anything to get them to write about McCain breaking his own public financing rules.

"Ohhhh, wow you are so smart, as well as crude..."

Can't expect a xenophobe to get much respect...

"Maybe, wisesage, if we did drill or VOTE to drill the price just might take a huge nose dive..."

Speculation has been ruled out as the cause of the jump in oil prices. The two main contenders for primary driver are the weak dollar and supply/demand.

I'm sure though, if Einstein thought like you, we'd never have heard of him...

You know, you must be pretty clean if the worst they can say about you is you won't fist bump a kid and you won't wear a flag on your lapel.

The government took me, was done with me, and paid me a nice GI Bill, which was a shack compared to the current mansion. Back then, the government actually took people. Not anymore.

So because the government supposedly took you and gave you a nice GI BILL.. the current crew serving should just be happy with what they had? They really don't deserve anymore? They should be happy with the handy they're being given?

Just as an aside, you do know that VA benefits and the like have been steadily wheedled down since the days of yore when the government took you?

I happened to have picked shrapnel out of my hide for uncle sam - I got a pretty crappy GI BILL too and I'm absolutely delighted that this passed. I guess I'm a terrible person for not seeing what a real waste of money this will be..

So I guess keep on tilting at those "outrageious" GI Bills windmills Jimmy ... maybe there you'll find true "happyness" and a fix for what's really wrong with the republic.

Hells bells!

I've heard EVERYTHING!

It simply CANNOT be that our commander in chief is a terrorist!

I mean, I saw with my own eyes, GWB giving a boy a fist bumb. The real thing, too. It was the mother of all fist bumps!

Tis the thilly theathon, all right...

Rustydog, I kind of want to cryogenically freeze your body, because once all the Baby Boomers die off there won't be anymore people frothing at the mouth about liberals, and I really don't want my children to miss the joy and laughter that people like you have brought to my life.

53,
You're right. A real, honest-to-God terrorist fist jab.

I'm hellishly shocked.

No wonder he hasn't tried to get Bin Laden...

"...because once all the Baby Boomers die off..."

I am sincerely hoping that you don't think ALL of us baby boomers are like Rusty.

After all, the thought processes you launched in my head were absolutely delightful - spoiled by the fact that I too am a baby boomer!

I hearded, if you freeze 'em solid with liquid nitrogen and accidentaly drop 'em, they shatter into a million peices!

The real story is the lousy journalism here, from the extremely poor, incomplete pool report -- the video clearly shows Obama did not "trail off" but, in fact, completed the thought in a way that explains his actions -- to the multiple media outlets who without any evidence or information presumed to fill in the trail off blank. Round the clock pool/press access is a privilege, not a right, which carries with an obligation of professional responsibility sadly missing here...

53_3, do you wear a pink dress like the lady on Fox News right now when you go out and rally with the other Code Pinkers?

Interloper, you ticked me off bad with your first response to my post. I am over it now.

I didn't say that I got a "crappy" GI Bill. In fact, it was wonderful. They were the best days of my life. All of my friends were also discharged vets, and we had no problems with it whatsoever. In fact, most people had savings from not having spent any money before that nobody suffered.

I just think that the current bill is over the top, and I cannot accept the transferability deal.

That's my last comment on the issue. Thanks for the exchange.

"53_3, do you wear a pink dress like the lady on Fox News..."

Are you saying there are more than four colors in the multibillion-dollar two-bit (literally) terrorism color code you guys cooked up?

And you are listening to Fox news right now?

It figures...

Go git 'em Einstien!

Karen, thanks for writing about this. I don't think the other commenters here realize how important this is. This speaks to character. This speaks to consistency. If Obama's willing to change his handshake, what else might he change? Maybe his religion? Maybe convert back to Islam?

This scandal is far from over...

"This speaks to character. This speaks to consistency. If Obama's willing to change his handshake, what else might he change?"

I agree, but what about Bush? What about Coby Bryant? My gosh, they're ALL terrorists!

RUN LIKE HELL!

DougJ not only thinks torture is too cool to pass up, his reading comprehension level is such that he utterly failed to notice that the event in question DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Better trolls please....

DougJ how dare you allude that Barak HUSSEIN Obama would ever think of converting back to Islamic Extremism? How dare you allude that the American people are stupid enough to vote a man to the highest office in the land, and his only "change" will be to revert to his father's religion as a Muslim?

FOUL FOUL FOUL. We are not permitted to make these claims.

Obama is in favor of faith-based initiatives. Earmarks to churches, synagogs, and mosques so that in the case of Obama when he converts back to the religion of his childhood, he can fund all the Madrassas to teach our children the Islamic extremisms that he learned so well as a child.

But, no we shouldn't assume that this could be a possibility. Absolutely not. This could never happen. Just as Hitler took over Germany, Obama would never do such a thing.

Doug, didn't you read KT's story? Turns out the kid didn't want a fist bump; he wanted his hand autographed. Deferring to the potential wrath of mothers everywhere over the gratuitous skin vandalism, Obama declined.

In short, Obama didn't flip-flop over anything - in this case - and the outrage over the incident is misplaced. Comprende? Should we use smaller words? Do you need an aspirin, now? I know this takes a lot of thinking for you.

FOUL FOUL FOUL. We are not permitted to make these claims.

LOL. The mullahs have spoken, I guess.

"I am sincerely hoping that you don't think ALL of us baby boomers are like Rusty."

No, I don't. But there are enough. And that brings up a part of this election that I haven't seen any pundit discuss so far. With most generations, I think that there's a relatively even split between conservatives and liberals.

My generation would have probably turned out the same way. But eight years of Bush fixed that. The Republican Party can be pretty savvy about winning elections and playing demographics games, but what I don't think they took into account was that they inadvertently got an entire generation of young people to become overwhelmingly left-leaning.

Pundits like to marvel at how many young people are voting for Obama, sardonically mentioning that they must have slept through the '04 elections. But they forget that was four years ago, and teenagers that were 14 in '04 can now vote. With every election, more young people are going to be able to vote, and there will inevitably be less of the WWII/Baby Boomer generation. The electorate is slowly changing, and if I were the RNC, I would be extremely nervous right now.

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"But, no we shouldn't assume that this could be a possibility. Absolutely not. This could never happen. Just as Hitler took over Germany, Obama would never do such a thing."

Rustydog would actually prefer Hitler, at least he's white.

KT here--

Sorry, guys. I just thought it was sort of funny.

A member of the media thinks that the SPREADING OF LIES by one of the countries major political parties, during a presidential campaign, is SORT OF FUNNY.

I don't get it. This sort of thing just pisses me off to no end. How is this funny? Oh, I know, because this is all just a GAME anyway, isn't it?

@Steve in Sacto

Earlier this year, Mitt Romney was described as losing control with a reporter who repeatedly asked Romney why the Romney campaign had a lobbyist in control. Romney repeatedly stated that there was a lobbyist acting as campaign consultant not as campaign director. Whether you agreed with the response or not, Romney answered the question. After the question period was over, with cameras still running, Romney went over to the reporter and asked why the same question was asked over and over again after he had responded. Romney seemed calm. This was Romney "losing it" according to MSM.

Obama was said to have been abrupt with a female reporter and refusing to answer her question according to ABC News. The video actually showed Obama calmly stating that he would answer the question in a few minutes after he attended to another matter.

The press created the Romney and Obama outbursts out of thin air. Mika B on MSNBC and
John Harwood appearing on CNN admitted that Wesley Clark's statement about McCain was rational. Both Mika and Harwood said that the issues surrounding Clark's statement were "too difficult" to be explained.

We have a press that makes stories up despite visual evidence to the contrary. The MSM cannot tell us that John Kerry was not ridiculing the troops, or that Wesley Clark had a valid point. The issues are too difficult to be explained in detail by the media.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.

Meursault

Elitist much? I may rename myself DougCorton.

It's amazing how the media keeps misrepresenting items regarding Obama and his campaign, while covering for McCain's numerous gaffes, mistakes, and even campaign finance misdeeds.

It's also nice to know that the media is so focused on the things that matter to people...like fist jabs, signing autographs, etc.

I mean, it's not like we have sky high gas prices, or 2 wars going on, or a looming recession, or people without healthcare...

And then the media has the gall to ask why people don't pay more attention to the real issues.

> We are not permitted to make these claims.

Oh, you're permitted to make these claims. And we're permitted to call you an extremist, bigoted fear monger in response, since the evidence is simply not there.

"Obama is in favor of faith-based initiatives. Earmarks to churches, synagogs, and mosques so that in the case of Obama when he converts back to the religion of his childhood, he can fund all the Madrassas to teach our children the Islamic extremisms that he learned so well as a child."

I'm really, really laughing at this. I mean, really laughing. So you are imagining that once he's elected, Obama will "revert" to the alledged religion of his childhood and "fund all the madrassas" (what madrassas?) to teach our children blah blah. I mean, are you seriously trying to convince me that Obama will single handedly turn my local elementary school into a "madrassa?" With what magical power?

What it actually reveals is the right-wing's desire for a king--you want the Prez to have this kind of power, which is why so few on the right object to Bush's trammeling the constitution. You all want angry dad to tell you what to do

Rusty and the other R-wingnuts are afraid. It's actually worse than that: they're cowards. They clamor for war while sending other peoples' children to fight these wars. And, of course, they pick fights with countries they think they have a shot at beating - not the tougher countries.

BTW, Rusty, using your current logic of claiming BHO is a muslim because of his middle name, I conclude that you are a raging homo. How? You scratch your "parts" and I'm sure you've seen other men nude in the shower. You perv...

Why isn't the media concerned with the evident plagiarism involved in the elaboration of John McCain's political platform? It was clearly lifted from the George Bush Torture Manual on how to cripple a nation by destroying the Middle Class.

I used to give my playing partners a terrorist fist jab anytime we won a game of pairs eight-ball back when I was a regular pool player. Can somebody tell me to which person at DHS I should report all of those people, who once seemed to be friends but who I now realize were really al-Qaeda agents infiltrating The Homeland's felt-topped recreational establishments?

...in the case of Obama when he converts back to the religion of his childhood...
Hey DougJ and Rustydog,
Thanks for the entertainment. Do all right wingers have as much class as you two do?

maxvintage wrote: I mean, are you seriously trying to convince me....
Actually, they aren't. You (and I, for that matter) must learn to not feed the trolls.

Must learn to not feed the trolls. Must learn to not feed the trolls. Must learn to not feed the trolls....
Maybe someday I'll learn.

Dennis Denuto wrote:A member of the media thinks that the SPREADING OF LIES ... is SORT OF FUNNY.
You're being kind of harsh towards KT Dennis. I think she's right -- it's pretty funny. KT didn't come up with this stuff, she just reported it. Actually, I'm quite pleased with her take on it as something to be laughed at. Had the media (and the public at large) laughed at the RNC's 'Gore said he invented the internet' smear in 2000, maybe it would never have taken root. Ridiculing this sort of stuff with humor is very effective.

KT,
Please share the contents of the RNC's 'mass e-mail' with us. I'm eager to be further entertained and inept attempts at propaganda always tickle my funny bone.

"The Homeland's felt-topped recreational establishments?..."

I'm sure they were, FastEddie.

I think we are posolutely surrounded by Al Queda operatives. They are spying on you, attempting to steal your billiards secrets for their team in Beijing...

"Must learn to not feed the trolls. Must learn to not feed the trolls. Must learn to not feed the trolls....
Maybe someday I'll learn."

I just like to beat 'em with sticks, or poke them with sharp objects while they're sleeping it off.

I does get a little tiring though...

"My generation would have probably turned out the same way..."

Be thankful that they didn't!

There ARE dinosaurs amongst us, for sure, but after having listened to stuff far shriller than even RustyNuts and DougJ or QA could even have thought of for 30 years as an adult, I for one, am SERIOUSLY ready for a change.

I have a feeling about November 4th...

"FOUL FOUL FOUL. We are not permitted to make these claims.

LOL. The mullahs have spoken, I guess."

Sniffing butts again. Guess they recognize each other...

" Meursault

Elitist much? I may rename myself DougCorton."

Literacy is elitist.

Hi KT,
I just had the chance to follow the gaining popularity link in your post. The Newsday article showing a picture of Bush doing a 'terrorist fist jab' asks:
"Raising the question: When a president with a pathetic approval rating does something that was previously considered cool, does it immediately become uncool?"

Sadly, the answer is yes.

We must now all return to doing 'high fives'. What a pity.

It's nice that the press has so much downtime they can make this a story.
Meanwhile, oil has hit another new high.

...And McCain is setting up for another character-destruction campaign by hiring Rove's buddies.

But McCain's an HONORABLE man. Joe Klein keeps telling us that, then saying, "But...."

Who cares about fistbumps?

Honestly.

having thankfully been away from this crap yesterday, i'm just now hearing about the denied terrorist fist jab for junior -- that wasn't.

and who was the originator of this lie who propelled it out into the ether -- why, none other than the celebrated and highly thought of (by his village pals, of course) mark halperin.

spinning the rnc propaganda for years...

Posted by pippin | July 3, 2008 6:59 AM

It's nice that the press has so much downtime they can make this a story.
Meanwhile, oil has hit another new high.

My sentiments exactly, when will we have a story about all the millions in stock ownership the Democrats in Congress have in Oil Companies?

AMC? Jay? JNS? Michael? Doesn't reaping millions and millions in stock options qualify as a story, especially when you are a Democrat voting against drilling for oil and the average American is paying out the nose for gas?

Expose them all, Republicans and Democrats for exploiting the American people with their votes in Congress. The American people have a right to know.

RustyDog thinks Obama is the AntiChrist.

That is all.

Have fun seeing Lyle Lovett Karen! He is awesome. Hope you get to see him with the "big band".

"Doesn't reaping millions and millions in stock options qualify as a story, especially when you are a Democrat voting against drilling for oil and the average American is paying out the nose for gas?"

Not really. The Republicans are reaping billions, and they still control the White House, set foreign policy, etc etc.

You see, a billion is bigger than a million. AND, two plus two is four.

-fist bump-

And the vote?

Common sense...

The truth doesn't matter. This will become part of the false campaign history repeated endlessly by reporters. Just like the lies from previous campaigns such as "Al Gore says a) he invented the internet, b) love Sotry was based on his life, etc."

Here is the weaselly correction from the NY TImes on Maureen Dowd's column:
"Correction: July 3, 2008
In describing an encounter between Barack Obama and a schoolboy in Zanesville, Ohio, Maureen Dowd’s column on Wednesday used a campaign pool report. The report said that Mr. Obama had declined to bump fists with the boy. The campaign now says that the boy was trying to get Mr. Obama to autograph his hand, but the candidate declined, citing the possible reaction of the boy’s mother."

I usually end up detesting the press for this pattern of lying about Democrats that they repeat over and over every four years.

Looks like this year won't be any different.

KT here--

Teresa: He was amazing, as was the Large Band, and it was a perfect night to be outside at Wolf Trap listening to him. I'd forgotten his range. He did gospel, blues, bluegrass and country--all of it spectacularly. No fist bumps, though.

AlphaLiberal wrote:"Here is the weaselly correction from the NY TImes..."

Wow. Initially I thought this was cute, but know I'm not so sure. Weaselly doesn't go nearly far enough in describing this 'correction'. The NY Times' 'The campaign now says...' phrasing is misleading. Are we talking about the Obama campaign or the campaign pool? Does the NY Times expect most of their readers to even know what a campaign pool is? And why did they use the 'first they said this ... now they say that' phrasing at all? Why not just say the report was not true and put an end to it.

The Times could have dealt with this is an honest, straightforward manner. They could have said: 'The report said that Mr. Obama had declined to bump fists with the boy. THAT REPORT WAS FALSE.' They chose not to.

I fear AlphaLiberal is right. This may very well become one of the 'Gore said he invented the internet' smears of 2008. It will be important to slap it down strongly and quickly every time it is repeated.

Aren't there a couple wars going on? A market collapse redolent of the Depression? Huh, I guess not.

So typical that even when a media type listens to country music, it's of the left-wing, America-hating variety that Lyle Lovett dispenses, with his condescending songs about "redneck women" and Tonto and the Lone Ranger.

Me, I prefer Toby Keith and Lee Greenwood.

at Wolf Trap

That reminds me, If you ever get a chance to see "The Grandsons" by all means do so.

They used to call the Republicans the "Daddy Party," but since they're clearly going through menopause -- with all the sudden rage and hot flashes -- I think we need to change that a bit.

So Obama didn't decline to make a gesture that isn't a terrorist symbol? Now that's juicy stuff!

Also, I hear that McCain doesn't wear a flag pin.

A bit about Obama's non preconditions with rogue state leaders.

Although I am not surprised how little coverage the Colombian Army's operation managed to rescue 15 hostages of the FARCs without shedding a DROP of blood, I will bring it up.

Irina Bethancourt, an extraordinary idealist (a real idealist, by the way) was running for President 7 years ago. She believed in peace, she believed in talking to adversaries without pre-conditions. She went to talk to the FARCs about peace and got kidnapped in the process, she was robbed of being with her husband, children and parents for seven years. Last night, after the rescue, she spoke eloquently and filled with emotion she thanked God, the Colombian Army and President Alvaro Uribe for risking it all and going for it to save them.

It made me think. It made me think that the world is a much more complicated place and than we can imagine. Lofty goals and ideals have been completely obliterated by...take your pick, without excluding our own selves.

Just a thought...about Mr. Obama's rhetoric.

KT here--

DougJ: It gets waaaaay worse than that! A few years back, I went to see the Dixie Chicks at MCI Center. And when I was in high school, I went to Willie Nelson's Fourth of July picnic, which was the closest thing Texas had to Woodstock. And at an even earlier age, I figured out "Okie from Muskogee" was meant to be ironic.

This wasn't a "scandal" yesterday, and it isn't a story today.

John McCain has flip-flopped on four dozen substantial issues this year.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/9111.html

Could our masters in the media elite kindly let us dumb citizens know just how many flip-flops he gets away with before you start to talk about them? Fifty hasn't done it. A hundred? Two hundred?

Or is John McCain such an Amazing Maverick™ that he can even disagree with himself?

Also, on a wholly unrelated topic, it's really bewildering why the newsmagazines and newspapers are losing readers in droves these days. I can't imagine why.

Who cares about fistbumps?

The same set of third-graders who keep writing 'Mrs. John McCain' over and over again in cursive on their school books.

You know, the media.

That's it. DougJ has to be a troll parody and not an actual troll.

DougJ has to be a troll parody and not an actual troll.

I get it, anyone who doesn't tow the liberal line must be joking. Don't expect you'll be laughing too hard come this November.

DougJ is an embarassment to consevatives everywhere.

He's already made clear that he's all in favor of chasing down false terrorist leads because its worth the opportunity to make prisoners suffer.

He's already proven that he's to stupid to understand that Karen's post was about a false story.

I suspect that he's really looking forward to graduating High School eventually but he's not sure when.

I'm sure that John McCain is proud to count him among his supporters....

"I get it, anyone who doesn't tow the liberal line must be joking. Don't expect you'll be laughing too hard come this November."

I see, said the blind man to the log on his right.

Look at ALL THOSE POLLS...

KT: He [Lovett] was amazing, as was the Large Band, and it was a perfect night to be outside at Wolf Trap listening to him. I'd forgotten his range. He did gospel, blues, bluegrass and country--all of it spectacularly.
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Sounds like a great night... I learned to love Lyle when I went to UT a million years ago. I was even at a concert when he first married Julia Roberts and brought her on stage. (Of course the audience in Austin thought HE was the one marrying down.)

I'm trying to get back into the concert scene. Hubby & I have Springsteen tickets for August. Liberal right down to our listening habits!

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