Swampland, TIME

Scott's Big Day

All of the fireworks over Scott McClellan’s turncoat book finally culminated in last Friday’s kabuki testimony before the House Oversight Committee where Dems indulged in the word “impeachment” and the GOP tried their best to eat one of their own. But for all of the outrage, Scott’s book shouldn’t be that surprising. He’s just one of several former Austin Democrats* who drank the Bush Kool-Aid, believing he was the path to the Third Way, and came away from the experience disappointed and disillusioned. Just look at Mark McKinnon and Matthew Dowd – who did more to elect Bush than Scott ever did. Scott’s biggest sin isn’t, then, the betrayal, it’s the writing of the tell-all book.

*Correction:
I stand corrected by a colleague -- Scott's mom (a former Austin Mayor) was once a Democrat, but Scott never was. And McKinnon, while quitting McCain's campaign because he would not work against Obama, still supports McCain and has never publically broken with Bush.

Reader Comments (76)

Andy from Massachusetts:

Jay, where's the outrage that he deliberately misled the MSM? His biggest sin that he wrote the book? Come on wake up and smell the coffee.

I think you've been drinking the Kool-Aid too!

TomT:

You're an idiot, JNS. How clowns like you and Michael got jobs like I'll never know?

Just out of curiosity, how much do you and Michael get paid?

jayackroyd Author Profile Page:

WTF?

GySgt213:

JNS,

And the press was on to Bush's b.s. all along. Scotty and the others were just operating in a vacuum. Talking about calling the kettle black. OMG!! Your comments take either a lot nerve of willful ignorance and I would suggest the latter and not the former. Here is a fact. The press did a whole lot more to get Bush elected twice than Scotty and the others did.

The funny thing is Scotty did eventually see the light. He went to congress and took and oath to tell the truth. You and your colleagues are still saddled up to the bar drinking the kool-aid by the friggin gallons. That's why you and others are assisting the administration in marginalizing what Scotty has to say.

You did it to Richard Clarke, you did it to Paul O'Neil and to anyone else that tried to tell you clowns the truth. You don't want the truth and you certainly don't want to write about it because it threatens your friggin access.

obamish Author Profile Page:

Who?

Oh, right.

The latest in the line of I FAILED TO ACT AT THE TIME, SO I WROTE THIS BOOK part-timers.

Call it the Joe Bilson Syndrome (liberal genius of Saddam's oil-for-EU years).

Brain fat Scottie won't be able to get a drink of fresh water outside Travis County.

If there.

Next!

obamish Author Profile Page:

You did it to Richard Clarke, you did it to Paul O'Neil and to anyone else that tried to tell you clowns the truth...

Really?

Truth was the first casualty of January 1993.

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. ...without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ... " “I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." SENATOR JOHN F KERRY (D, MA), in 2003

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."SENATOR TED KENNEDY (D, MA), in 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." – NANCY PELOSI, in 1998

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." – AL GORE, in 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members .. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), in 2002

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." - Madeline Albright, in 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, in 1999

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, in 1998

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." – BILL CLINTON, in 1998

Oh well.

LEGACY HAPPENS.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." – AL GORE, in 2002

So Goethe then The Big Liberal Lie of 2008: That Gore would not have gone after Saddam, after 9-11.

All DNC arguments to the contrary are moot, lib media allie talking points playlist or not.

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Terrapinion:

Thank god that you and MASSIMO CALABRESI have adopted such a flippant, cavalere tone about this entire episode. Because we would not want to take the charges of obstruction of justice or the treason that the obstruction is protecting to be discussed in a serious way. What is most important is that we talk about this story only as it relates to the GOP-constructed narrative of disloyalty and omuerta.

What I would like to see is the Washington media to use its Fourth Estate responsibilities topester the White House about the obvious cover up, the blatant stone-walling. Instead all we get is Broderesque cooing about how the Republicans have 'skillfully blocked all efforts of congressional Democrats'. The Washington media is actually giggling in girlish admiration of the Bush administration's ability to obstruct justice in an investigation into treason.

If only the media and the GOP were as loyal to this nation as they are to their party.

KathyR:

Andy from MA - um, I think Jay was being a wee bit ironic in the greatest sin department.

Lulu Lulu:

OK Obamish, I know you're a troll and all that, but I've got to ask because I'm genuinely curious...what in that quote makes you think that Al Gore would have "gone after" SH had he been in the same position? Forming an international coalition to eliminate access to weapons does not equal a military intervention. Hasn't Bush said the same thing about North Korea? And yet in that case he means diplomacy, not force.

Really, I'm being genuine so I ask you to reply in kind. If you can give me an honest, accurate answer I'd like to hear it.

FlownOver:

Lulu:

Save your bandwidth. Some people wouldn't know an honest, accurate answer if it bit them on the a$$.

Terrapinion:

obamish - You wrote: "So Goethe then The Big Liberal Lie of 2008: That Gore would not have gone after Saddam, after 9-11."

You are sadly and knowingly mistaken. The context of Gore's comments were in the early days of Bush's propaganda campaign to drive this country to war. Gore was doing two things with his comments:

1) Gore was actively supporting this nation's President after the trauma of the attacks that Bush was unable to prevent. The nation was still divided after the 2000 election and Gore took an active role in bringing the nation together. This was a demonstration of patriotic leadership and points out the GOP lie that Democrats and liberals in this nation did not 'rally around the flag'. Democrats are patriots.

2) Gore was trying to send a message to Bush that the right way to do this is with 'an international coalition' and NOT unilaterally. And despite the GOP lie that we had an international coalition, the Coalition of the Willing was a laughable joke.

The GOP ignored everything that Gore was trying to do. They mocked his calls for unity and they ignored his advice to operate within a strong international mandate. And to this day they call him silly, childish names.

obamish, why can't you do the right thing? Why do you hate America so much? Why do you hate your fellow Americans?

53_3:

"You are sadly and knowingly mistaken..."

Sadly or not, Osamish can't do history. And he KNOWS it.

He's another one of those Blathering Bigots that keep trying to play their hate theme over and over and over and over and over and ...

But what Osamish doesn't understand is that mountain rolling with stately grace overhead is his coming political end.

His extinction draws nearer, and soon, all that will be left is the twittering birds...

obamish Author Profile Page:

Silly liberals.

Tricks IS for Clixons.

CHER could have been POTUS on 9-12-01, and Saddam was still going to bite it.

An unknown quantity of his history was NOT going to go untouched, oil for EU skimmers not withstanding.

Obama's thin Time line on Iraq, like the media's bogus whacking of Bush but for the errors of the Clixons, IS simply more bad reason to kill good trees to make crappy "news" magazines.

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obamish Author Profile Page:

When the FACTS get in the way of liberal fantasy?

Roll out the flaming family of 53 carded Kos klown kooks!

What a dense mob.

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53_3:

Osamish:

I can counter ALL of that. You make it sound like the Democrats were for the war. UTTER, complete stupidity.

Do you know WHY I can say that?

Very, VERY simple. Written in the hand of your own foul brood are the documents at www.newamericancentury.org.

Go look Osamish, and cry. Look particularly at Wolfowicz and Perle's docs from 1998, 1999, and 2000. Look at the reasons they wanted to in numerous documents referring to their desire to make Iraq a Neocon social experiment.

You see, Osamish, the days of BS are over, just like your foul, idiotic, hate-every-American-that-doesn't-look-or-think-like-I-do attitude.

AND, BTW, Osamish, I would LOVE to choke off your FDR-realted benefits.

Slowly, ever so slowly, so you could feel the pain intimately...

53_3:

The extinction, er, election is coming Osamish.

Watch those rocks from space...

obamish Author Profile Page:

Enough with the useless appeasing lefty invective.

McCain has opined some pretty dall dang serious incentives for the HP set to get off their collectivist Gameboy duffs, and pitch in with the energy supply changes required.

Along with some cash, we need some domestic expansion, to include ANWR and nuke plants.

Even some of your old Earth 1st kooks have come around to that reality, late if better.

We should spend a little less Time whacking Bush for cleaning up Carter's weak legacy, eh, and a little more Time in Group Think about what might work to save the nation from economic collapse at the hands of Red China, Putin, and Al Queda.

Unless the DNC portion still has their Stalinist sympathies in play, of course.

We wouldn't want to rock the Red Brigades out of their mental sleep too early in the new American century.

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53_3:

Osamish:

On January 20, 2009, people like me will be celebrating a new direction. A new day. A new life.

And you?

You will be huddled in your smoke filled hovel, burning with hatred. With your party in tatters, the pictures of your heroes Timothy McVeigh, and David Koresh and others will be nothing historical footnotes of terrorism and hate in the Republican party.

Rest in Everlasting Hell 1980 - 2009...

Egilsson:


I think JNS might be even more stupid than Scherer.

I guess the idea she's conveying here is that we really shouldn't be surprised that McClellan is a turncoat because he's actually a democratic mole, and therefore nothing he says matters. No biggie, says JNS, this is just sour grapes from a democratic loser.

Seriously, she gets paid for this nonsense?

obamish Author Profile Page:

Hysterical foot long note:

Some brilliance back I idled that Obama reminded me of the high school kid at Baskin-Robbins that constantly screwed up your order.

Turns out, he actually DID scoop ice cream, as his lone private sector experience (which he proudly hates to this day).

From whence cometh the mettle that make our Obama!

PS: His Mama was part of the occupiers of the kingdom of Hawaii. By choice. By option. By plan.

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TomT:

Has anyone else noticed that obamish always appears when Scherer is gone? Kinda makes you wonder...

53_3:

"McCain has opined some pretty dall dang serious incentives for the HP set to get off their collectivist Gameboy duffs, and pitch in with the energy supply changes required."

Busllsh*t. NONE of those changes will effect the price of oil or gas in the next ten years. He didn't even mention oil shale, of which we have more than 400 times our paltry oil reserves right here along the east side of the rockies.

THAT would be a solution. NOT McCains idiocy.

Another thing:

Methane hydrate. Do you know what that is, Osamish? Any idea at all? Do you know what happens when it becomes ustable? Do you know HOW it can become unstable? Do you know what happens when a rig punches through sediments containing it?

You better, if you want to talk oceanic oil recovery...

"...what might work to save the nation from economic collapse ..."

You can't even DO economy, Osamish, any better than you can do oil and energy.

The weak dollar is LONG a policy of Neocons, and I of course, point you at their own writings linked in a post above. The weak dollar, globalization, another LONG TIME policy of Neocons, free trade, yet another Neocon biggie, and stupidity promoting instability in the ME is what lead to our current crisis.

NOT to mention deregulation and rampant corruption.

Harry:

To JNS,

Your reporting on this, and on Lieberman, simply isn't news. A brand new article whose jist is that Joe Lieberman is siding with the Republicans on major issues wouldn't even have been news a year ago. You chose an easy target, and robbed us of a chance actually to learn something new.

Re Scott McClellan, this was news two weeks ago. His book reveals very little that we didn't already know. We all knew that the big "shock" was the former buddy-buddy telling all. We also all knew that the Left would shout "impeachment," the Right would put up a wall, lawyers would haggle over who knew what when for years, lawyers would then haggle over legalities and technicalities, and in the end the Administration leaders would be disgraced but free. Which is exactly what they are already today. That ship has sailed. Not news.

53_3:

TomT:

Are you insinuating that he's tossed aside his previous love, that child molester David Koresh?

53_3:

Pretty weak osamish.

Do you know something? It's funny to me anyway, but you are ALWAYS the first one to bring up the issue of race!

It gets pretty tiring actually Osamish, but, like I said:

Watch those rocks from space...

obamish Author Profile Page:

"On January 20, 2009, people like me will be celebrating a new direction. A new day. A new life."

You mean the new GOP majority in Congress, as a brooding conservative majority back lash against Obama's promises of higher taxes, greater regulation, looser borders, gutted defense spending, and more libiots on the SCOTUS?

You REALLY think the voters are STUPID enough to give Obama a blank check on socialism and isolationism, should he squeak by in cold Michigan or closed shop Pennsylvania?

If I have any extra room for you at the Springfield Hilton during McCain inaugural week, I'll advise.

You can sleep on the floor, next to the HILLARY 2012 headline on the January 20th Wopoo Post.

obamish Author Profile Page:

53eeper

We need a BROAD choice of energy, not a leaking hemp basket. And if you have a complaint, tell it to the DNC dolts that haven't allowed a new nuke plant or oil refinery in the last 30 YEARS. Duh.

The BLAME for the looming SHORTAGES would be cobered at greater length, if Hillary could keep the lights and AC on in Queens, of course. She's been such a boon to the power grid back East, doncha know.

...

Lulush

I'm quoting your own party legacies. Bush 43 wasn't even in DC, when Sandy Burglar consulted Chelsea over aspirin factory policy and saving Old Europe from those far ranging Kosovites.

But enough about not getting UN approval to kill Christians.

How's that Zimbabwe vote going today? Any better than Rwanda? Somalia, perhaps?

I'd have thought you and Cindy and Martin and John and 53 would have strapped each other to the gates of the Hong Kong embassy by now.

What a group.

53_3:

"You REALLY think the voters are STUPID enough to give Obama a blank check on socialism and isolationism, should he squeak by in cold Michigan or closed shop Pennsylvania?"

You don't have to dispute me, just watch the numbers, read the analysis (OTHER than Fox!), see the clips, guage the enthusiasm, and keep a moist finger stuck up in the air instead of up your butt.

You might figure this one out, Osamish. People don't like lies anymore. And you lie worse than any dog.

But like I said, I will take it philosophically that there will be a LOT of Republican codespeak that I will NEVER have to hear again, come your extnction.

You'll be huddled in self-consuming hatred in your hutch, shivering in fear of all the socialists, commies, gays, Blacks, other various ethnic groups, 'Clixons', appeasers, left handed surrender monkeys, etc etc.

The smoke rising from the ERM building is a suitable epitaph of the demise of your hateful gaggle of heroes...

53_3:

"How's that Zimbabwe vote going today? Any better than Rwanda? Somalia, perhaps?"

Ask your own idjit in cheef. He's running this country right now.

BTW, when are you going to realize that American citizens come first?

You know, Osamish, there are about 4,000 pages of documents written by your own foul brood over on www.americancentury.org.

And you spout FOUR quotes? Against all of that?

You looze. And NOT by a small margin, either.

"tell it to the DNC dolts that haven't allowed a new nuke plant or oil refinery in the last 30 YEARS."

Let's see, your foul brood had eight years to open one up, and they didn't either. Hell, they had unfettered rule from 2000 to 2006. So what gives.

That is, IF we should go there.

"We need a BROAD choice of energy, not a leaking hemp basket"

You don't even know energy issues Osamish. I see you ignored oil shale. Completely.

Like I said:
YOU CAN'T DO HISTORY.
YOU CAN'T DO ENERGY.
YOU CAN'T DO CIVIL RIGHTS.

And, I LOVLINGLY add, I'm more than happy to rip your filthy soul on any and every subject...

Andy from Massachusetts:

KathyR - I think you give JNS too much credit. I haven't read anything she written that provides any evidence of that.

For all I know, JNS thinks irony is a medical condition in the lower extremity.

53

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20080623/pl_politico/11257;_ylt=AtN4y27G3F.PVaMhgg2it_.WwvIE

A good article on Obama's law review tenure.

Nobody doubts that he's articulate and career controlled.

So was Jimmy Carter.

We all know how THAT turned out.

If you insist on arguing that the dems planned to do NOTHING about Saddam, after 9-11?

By all means, run that up the French flag pole too.

Nothing like the mammary of 1998 to bring old Monica back into the Yugoslobia debate, about the proper projection of American power, for American interests -- of which there were NONE in the Balkans, interns unleashed or not.

Should we have gone into Serbia anyway? Yes (though the Europeans once again failed to clean up their own back yard, at OUR expense yet unpaid).

Should we have taken out Saddam? Also YES, after Gulf I -- and the blame for that mistake goes far and wide (and I was no better than the majority then, seeing the short end taken as reasonable, given the Iranian balancing act).

Today?

We should apply the same pressures for Sudan and Zimbabwe that we used in Dayton, at minimum -- though it may be too late for both.

It would send a needed message to African allies that we value their fight against terrorism, and to our enemies that they are not free from American attention once Bin Laden is killed.

That's another shoe, yet to drop: What do we do after the media declares victory in Iraq?

Obama has said he'd go into Pakistan directly.

Bush 43 has decided to man the borders.

Which of those seems more militarist, or pre-emptive?

The liberal flailing but for the sake of domestic political position could not be ranker than it IS this sorry DNC season of selfishness and stupidity.

smedley:

obamish-

You have a track record here. You have been wrong about everything. How are those joint town halls going?

On topic-

JNS- Did you notice Lamar Smith referred to McClellan as Judas? In that scenario, Bush is Jesus. Isn't that worthy of ridicule by you and your cohorts?

smedley:

Keep it up, obamish. How about Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 9/11 hijackers were from. Shouldn't we invade and occupy them? Plus, they have oil! And Iran! And Syria! And North Korea! And China! And Russia. Gee, this is fun. Kinda like "Risk" when there is no personal blood to spill.

Paul-no not that one:

Isn't that worthy of ridicule by you and your cohorts?

Posted by smedley


She and they will ridicule what they are told to ridicule.

obamish Author Profile Page:

You better, if you want to talk oceanic oil recovery...

Well Baton Rude, since at least half the fam IS Texans, and a few locals here work or have worked out on the rigs (including helicopter pilots), and we did do the Rangerette museum in Kilgore, I'd have to say I'm nothing short of stumped as to what EXPLOSION or LEAK you now anticipate, sidewinder drilling wise -- outside of your own Depends, of course.

Yes, we can do clean coal and Canuckistanian shale up the wazoo (they can't hire enough folks to head up to Hockeyland to work the new digs).

The priority down the road (once consumer travel is covered) will be keeping the larger rigs rolling at reasonable cost and reduced pollution.

What I need personally is something that gets 30 MPG for the Winnebago.

With the toaster oven.

Since many of the forclosures will be going that route for retirement, and I at least want to see fewer of them at the pump.

obamish Author Profile Page:

smelldey

Dude, if it was all about Cheney's oil trust fund, we would have taken the SOB's out lock, stock, and camel back in 1991.

We don't do that.

As much as you wish we might, for your simple political party purposes that openly cherish basic morals about as much as the Kennedy clan cherishes open brain surgery.

But enough about Mary Jo.

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obamish Author Profile Page:

BTW, any of you DNC dolts catch AC's column last week on SC Justice Kennedy?

Speeching of faulty towers.

If you can't think of any reason other than actual national security to vote for McCain, at least consider the sick notion of Darth Vader Ginsburgh running the SCOTUS for even a week.

Yikes.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"Do you know something? It's funny to me anyway, but you are ALWAYS the first one to bring up the issue of race!"

THANK YOU REVEREND WRONG.

smedley:

osmallishweewee-

Comparing a tiny, old, Jewish woman to Darth Vader! There is a museum in Philadelphia that is crying out for your brain!

obamish Author Profile Page:

BTW, 53:

At the next Klan rally, can I get the beef, instead of the chicken?

I'm trying to watch my diet, for the hilarious Hitler costume this Halloween at the Waco compound.

I wouldn't want to disappoint anyone in your San Francisco dog sex of a DNC campaign, from their lowered if newly proud Amer-Hawaiian occupation party expectations.

Elian says Hey from the Havana convention.

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obamish Author Profile Page:

"Comparing a tiny, old, Jewish woman to Darth Vader!"

You're right.

That was totally unfair to Mr. Vader.

He, at least, knew where his loyalties rested.

She couldn't find Buchenwald on John Kerry's wet map of Kampuchea.

obamish Author Profile Page:

Judas McClellan, you say?

That really gives the fat little shrimp more crerdit than he deserves -- since, by his own sworn book tour of an admission, he was OUT OF THE LOOP as press flapper.

I guess the Buster Keeton-Rylander-Boskowitz-Richards-Chamberlite fam missed the sponge speech at health class that semester at TU, eh?

Oh well.

DRY HOLES HAPPEN.

Todd and in Charge:

I liked Obamish better when he was Question Hillary.

53_3:

"At the next Klan rally, can I get the beef, instead of the chicken?"

Ask them. After all, you SAID you were going.

I would give it up osamish.

I can wipe you on EVERY subject. Bar none.

And that IS.

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53_3:

Todd and in Charge:

I antagonize the HELL out of him. But, every once in a while, when I'm in a mean, mean mood, I rip him from one end to the other.

I love the fact he can't deal with it...

And, like I said, I would dearly love to slowly choke off his FDR based benefits...

Then, HE would be the third world refugee looking to the UN for a handout...

Paul Daniel Ash Author Profile Page:

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It describes a persistent underlying disturbance to conscious thought and is classified largely by its effects on speech and writing. Affected persons may show pressure of speech (speaking incessantly and quickly), derailment or flight of ideas (switching topic mid-sentence or inappropriately), thought blocking, rhyming, punning, or 'word salad' when individual words may be intact but speech is incoherent.

53_3:

"Well Baton Rude, ..."

You see, one of the differences between you and me is that I actually care about victims of natural disasters (or, any other type). Contrast that with your own filthy set of "morals", which better besuit a monkey...

"...since at least half the fam IS Texans, and a few locals here work or have worked out on the rigs (including helicopter pilots), and we did do the Rangerette museum in Kilgore, I'd have to say I'm nothing short of stumped as to what EXPLOSION or LEAK you now anticipate, sidewinder drilling wise -- outside of your own Depends, of course."

You still don't know a damn thing about methane hydrate, idjit. What happens when a ocean rig hits it? It ain't on land, dolt!

Betcha stupid. Nutball!

AND, who cares if half your family is Texan!

"Yes, we can do clean coal and Canuckistanian shale up the wazoo (they can't hire enough folks to head up to Hockeyland to work the new digs)."

Damn! I hand you a fact and you can't even see it.

We have oil shale here. East of the Rocky Mountains. A TON of it. Nice, high grade Cretaceous shale from when the Great Interior Seaway encroached on the land some 140 to 70 Mya.

You're not only a bigot, you are a STUPID bigot, filthy arse...

53_3:

PDA:

Sorry. Just antagonizing the animals...

obamish Author Profile Page:

53eeper, smelley, Flo-reeda, Stewie, Terradickle, TomTune, Hornet, Say Joe, and I apologize if I've lefty anyone outted:

Proposed, that we get Time-Life-CNN-Jazeera to fly us all in to Denver 2008, for a Swampcranks roundtable (I'd do it for Minnetonka, but I'm booked that weekend there, to escort old liberal loon ladies from the D.C. press corps, to their wrong hotel bus).

It would be the typical media ratio: 8 libs for every 1 conservative, but the numbers really don't bother us, as long as I don't have to bunk with Sean or Rusty (I hear they both snore, when listening to anything about O'Bonger).

I'd suggest we have open critiques of each night's main speeches, web simulcast cast from the nearest Peninsula Hotel (Bangkok? Bucharest?) or similar status accommodations, on the corporate dime.

I mean, look.

They fly KT and Klein and Wankette around, and does that fairly ever info-tain?

Hell, I'm not even making union scale here, and Allah only knows it cuts in to my Time down at the black helicopter factory firing union slackers for fun and profit.

And I've always wanted to meet 53 up close and personal, Jim McKay like, and his life panther, er, partner.

[Life panther? Get it, 53? That was a gay AND black joke. I'm growing.]

Anyhoo, run this up the oped fax for review.

What's his face the bald Time TV oped guy that looks like James Carvile's illicit offspring pre-Mandy might give us the A-OK, given the available talent.

Contacts could be sent to our Swamp e-mails of record, for discrete confirmation and dinner selections (the beef, please, not the chicken). I'd also request a daily stipend of $100 per peep for drinks and parking, per hour, plus the usual and customary honorarium for showing up. Plus unlimited video porn. Plus a coupon good for one free spilled drink with Klein at Trader Bit's.

This IS a limited Time offer to Time, since I'm otherwise going to beg of the Stalinfest that week and take the kids to the beach to watch the whales burst.

Seriously, all of you clowns need this vacation.

What could be happier?

We'd be together.

And that IS what matters, after all.

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PS: I will kick in 20 free XL wet T-shirts, for the first 20 XL BBMW (big beautiful media wooses) to attend that aren't registered Democrats. I figure I'm safe with that expenditure.

Any overages will be given to Doctors Without Shavers.

If you see QH around the Ghostsurf cooler, send her a carbon copy, eh?

obamish Author Profile Page:

"You're not only a bigot, you are a STUPID bigot, filthy arse..."

You project more than Universal Studios.

If they gave a degree in PARANOID, you'd be Albert Schweitzer.

53_3:

"Seriously, all of you clowns need this vacation."

We'll survive. You're a dinosaur. A bigot. A foul b'tard who never got love in the family.

Your extinction is coming, QH.

As for meeting me. I'd enjoy it. You wouldn't.

"[Life panther? Get it, 53? That was a gay AND black joke. I'm growing.]"

Damn! You STILL don't get it! You havn't figured it out yet, have you QH.

I'll step on your grave...

53_3:

"If they gave a degree in PARANOID, you'd be Albert Schweitzer."

And you have all the Stalinists and socialists and libtards and pandering minorities and gays and surrender monkeys and lefties and other sundry boogymen you've been rabling about? Damn, if I had all those, I'd be in the hall outside the restricted area they keep you in...

Well, black is white and less is more...

jimmyjamz:

53_3, I would get off mommy's computer if I were you. Obamish is owning you and making you look like a fool.

53_3:

And so far, QH, you've lost every debate with me where facts are involved.

EVERY one.

I LOVE it!

53_3:

nah. Unless you're not looking at the content...

AND, if that's the case, then I own him too!

"...You see, one of the differences between you and me is that I actually care about victims of natural disasters..."

YO, MAYOR MISFIT.

Put them on the BUS, and get them the hell out of there next time, eh?

You see anyone in IOWA whining about it?

No.

They GOT THE HELL OUT OF THERE when told to do so. White, black, red, yellow, green. They heeded the news cast, and GOT AWAY from the rising waters. NOLA had 3 DAYS notice, plenty of empty busses, and more than a few drivers that carted folks to & from LSU games EVERY WEEKEND, like clock work. Don't give me any of your YOU DIDN'T CARE jazz, Jazzbo. Half your helpless STATE moved into somebody else's tax domain, without charge.

And NOBODY said to build in the soup bowl, flood plain, quake zone, or tornado alley. EVER.

We all take our chances, Blackula.

Some just take far fewer than others, when it comes to electing DUMB mayors and listless gubners from Lousyanna.

That ain't 43's doing, or anyone from Montana.

Take some RESPONSIBILITY, for cripes sakes -- and stop blaming everyone but YOURSELF for your freakin useless excuse of an existence.

Calgon take me away!

[So endeth the stereotypes for today.]

obamish Author Profile Page:

"I'll step on your grave..."

Trim around the headstone and change the flowers then, will you?

chokora fukara:

JNS:
"..Scott’s biggest sin .. the writing of the tell-all book.."

WHAT?
The less we know the better?
O, woe is we, the masses!

[I still dream of JNS in the BW Mona Lisa look.]

"...You're a dinosaur. A bigot. A foul b'tard who never got love in the family..."

Sorry, were you speaking to me, or Reverend Sharpton?

Your circular logic, unfortunately, all leads back to the same blustering bag of bogus jury nullifications and wacko voodoo lunch money history.

= SHAKEDOWN ACCOMPLISHED =

Swampatriot:

Practically everyone other than KathyR, please stop assuming guilt before you read a piece, particularly if it's by JNS or AMC; their writing isn't as rigid as Joe or Jay's and there's a depressing tendency among commenters to misattribute opinions the writer is attributing to someone else as those of the writer. Clearly that "biggest sin" line is a callback to the GOP inquisitors she references as eating their own earlier at the entry's start.

BrooklynGurl:

53_3 CAN'T do civility.

Like you, 53_3, I am all for shale development but your tone is really in need of some moderation. Get back to the facts and lay off the crass tone and insults. Your tone undermines all else you write.

On the shale point, Congress needs to get off its rear and allow (or even encourage?) shale development NOW. We could become totally energy independent within a matter of years and become a net-exporter of petroleum (if we wished to export -- I don't think we should).

I would much prefer sending our petrodollars to jobs in Wyoming, Colorado and Utah than to the terrorist-backing princes of Saudi Arabia. Keep the money and jobs at home. If we don't need their oil, we can largely disengage from the Middle East.

Finally, back to McClellan -- he was a useless press secretary -- just awful. I had little to no regard for him when he spoke for the White House and I have less regard for him now that he is playing up his role to feed his ego at the expense of the country. He has nothing of value to add to policy or debate in this country.

53_3:

"53_3 CAN'T do civility."

53_3 won't do civility for QH. Not in the cards. He's earned every epithet I've tossed his way. Worked hard for it, even...

But, you do have a point, even then.

Oil shale became viable at approximately $65/bbl last I heard. So the R's could have instead of doing a crash program on drilling ANWR, they would have done better and by far avoided the environmental sensitivity associated with it.

I'm fine with McClellen though. There will be much much more, and there are some in this administration who will do time - for Katrina, if nothing else.

I'm thinking Chertoff...

53_3:

Oil shale reserves here alone are probably 30 to 40 times the entire worlds reserves of crude, BTW.

53_3:

AND, a short word about Katrina and so-called "personal responsibility".

1. Whatever Nagin's faults or credits, ALL local response and recovery infrastructure was destroyed. No response was possible locally.

---this differes from the examples given (9/11, the California fires, and the current flooding) in that in ALL of these, response and recovery infrastructure is INTACT, making it easy for the local officials (Ghouliani, Schwarzenegger, etc) to carry on their duties.

That ends myth number one.

---The federal government is ALREADY involved in the current flooding, five days sooner than in the case of Katrina. In the Katrina debacle, FEMA refused to allow aid into the city.

That ends myth number two.

---No one who had the misfortune to live there was looking for handouts any more than in Andrew or any of these more recent disasters.

That ends myth number three.

---The Administration, speaking of personal responsibility, refused to acknowledge Katrina even though the average American citizen learned through local news the severity of events within hours. That was four days SOONER than any proactivity, which was eventually forced, by popular opinion, on the part of the Administratin.

That ends myth number four.

---Corruption and unemployment levels in NO at the time was no worse or no better than any other large American city.

That ends myth number five.

---There is NO CORRELATION between a city's corruption and unemployment problems and the ability of it's response and recovery emergency infrastructure.

That ends myth number six.

---There were NO changes in federal law pertaining to federal response in disasters between Andrew's landfall and that of Katrina.

That ends myth number seven.

For all of this, google Sourcewatch. An enormous body of information is available, from law to initiatives to activities and other related documentation on the Katrina response.

Bascially ALL of these myths were perpetrated by Republicans in power and their mouthpieces - and NONE are supported by documentation of any type.

CalKate:

Wow, folks, you sure jump on JNS for her sins - it's pretty clear to me that the "greatest sin" is in the eyes of the betrayed (the Repubs), not hers.

obamish Author Profile Page:

53

Back from the FREE O.J. rally I see.

"Whatever Nagin's faults or credits, ALL local response and recovery infrastructure was destroyed. No response was possible locally."

RESPONSE is not RESPONSIBILITY: He failed to GET PEOPLE OUT ahead of the storm.

WAKE UP, STARBUCK.

70,000 people get bussed to & from Tiger football games every other weekend, for 4 months of the year.

They couldn't handle maybe 10,000, tops, with 3 DAYS notice?

So then what do the brooding IDIOTS in NOLA do?

They RE-ELECT the stupid jerk.

At least the idiot gubner had the grace to exit, quietly.

Case closed.

Now back to "Robert Mugabe, Friend of Africa" on this your 24-Hour PANTHER LOON Network...

53_3:

I'm really wondering why McKinnon doesn't want to work against Obama.

What were some of his deeper reasons, I wonder?

"So then what do the brooding IDIOTS in NOLA do?"

Possibly, the people of NOLA are a bit smarter than you, and don't particularly adhere to the myths you use to justify your hatred of the victims of Katrina.

53_3:

"They couldn't handle maybe 10,000, tops, with 3 DAYS notice?"

You may not have noted, but the landfall window was some 1,100 miles wide three days prior to the Katrina landfall.

There was a major debate following Andrew about when to issue evacuation warnings. One of the criteria was the characteristics of the storm. The most severe damage was to the east of the eye within a band 70 miles wide.

Landfall 24 hours ahead placed it between NO and Pensecola, FLA.

No problems there, either.

Either way, certainly none to justify your hatred of them. Your claims of lack of "personal responsibility" or otherwise are just plain empty. A complete myth.

53_3:

Whupped ya again, again, again.

Toot...

Paul-no not that one:

Correction:...

JNS the Emily Litella of Swampland

Margalis Author Profile Page:

Was there a single fact in this post that was correct? Maybe a single name spelled properly?

Scott’s biggest sin isn’t, then, the betrayal, it’s the writing of the tell-all book.

Considering that the book is the betrayal this doesn't even make sense.

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