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The NYT's Nagourney reports:

Senator John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, on Friday is scheduled to meet with two Republican governors who have been prominently mentioned as potential running mates, according to Republicans familiar with Mr. McCain’s plan.

Charlie Crist, the governor of Florida, and Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana, have both accepted invitations to meet with Mr. McCain at his home in Arizona, according to Republican familiars with the decision. One Republican said that Mitt Romney, a former rival of Mr. McCain for the presidential nomination — is also expected to visit him this weekend. Mr. Romney’s advisers declined to comment.

Reader Comments (48)

Cookie Puss Author Profile Page:

Strictly for entertainment purposes, please pick Mittens. PLEEEEEESE!

SFBear:

I don't know: Crist would be an interesting pick.

But are the Republicans ready for a gay Veep?

Might make the demonization tougher. . . .

DaveR:

Was it really "Republican familiars," as in a hawk or snake magically tied to its owner, or do you think it was a typo, meaning "Republicans familiar."

I am a big dork.

Florida:

Check out the audio of John McCain's pastor, John Hagee, saying that Hitler was doing God's will through the Holocaust:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-backer-hagee-said_n_102892.html

Demosthenes:

Great selection of VPs. First, the gay guy. He'll certainly bring the nutjob base in, right? Second, the 37 year old governor with a few months of experience on the job in the most corrupt state in the union. And McCain criticizes Obama for his youth, inexperience and Chicago connections? Third, is my favorite, the least popular politician with independents to run for president, and who is a member of a religion reviled by members of the Republican nutjob base.

Bring 'em on!

Cookie Puss Author Profile Page:

What Demosthenes said.

Why would he pick any of these guys, they'd all deprive him of his wedge issues (gay, not white, reel 'Mericans love Jesus, etc.)

Cincinnatus:

Now that it's been shown that McCain's spiritual advisor Haggee believes that Hitler was God's agent in bringing about Israel, he might need to shore up that Florida Jewish vote. Crist looking good.

obamish Author Profile Page:

Bobby Jindal

Good idea, but not old enough (it would look like another Bush-Quayle team, though with a much higher aggregate IQ).

Crist maybe, but I'm still betting on Senator what's his face from SC.

Romney?

McCain should announce his Cabinet the same hour Obama picks his VEEP nom.

From in front of the Edwards mansion at 29,000 Two Americas Mansion Way.

= LET'S ROLL =

jayackroyd Author Profile Page:

Please have him pick a southerner. They're well on their way to being a regional party. This would speed things along nicely.

SFBear:

I sure wish MS would ask McCain a series of questions on whether he agrees with Hagee's various positions, and why he wants people who think Hitler was doing God's work to vote for him.

And then ridicule him if he says he was unaware of these positions: I mean McCain SOUGHT OUT the endorsement. It's hard to believe that McCain couldn't have known of these opinions. Does he expect us to believe he wasn't in the pew? Let's run that footage all over the cable networks!

Is Hagee only like a crazy uncle? Does he denounce? Renounce? Shmee-mounse?

But that will never, ever happen.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080521/ap_on_el_pr/democrats_florida

Assuming Hillary will allow the DNC to use Obama, of course.

Man you libs can really pick some winners.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"But are the Republicans ready for a gay Veep?"

STOP PICKING ON WARREN CHRISTOPHER.

Cliff:

"Haggee believes that Hitler was God's agent in bringing about Israel"

Cincinnatus - is there a link for that? I'm not doubting you, that just sounds so horrible that I have to see it for myself.

LaSwamp:

Oh GOD. Please let him pick Bobby "crooked smile" Jindal. Especially now that the Baton Rouge Advocate (of all papers) is picking up wind of Jindal's watering down of state ethics reforms.

bitterpill8:

This is a tease: a gay man, an Asian Indian who converted to Christianity (will Hindiusm be a problem?) who is relatively young and inexperienced and a Mormon. What does the Base say?

LaSwamp:

Oh - that's right - Bobby's a CAT-LICK!

Good lord, it's like he wants to lose. And after all the massaging from the press, I wouldn't be surprised he's off track.

My consultations with the Oracle of Plaquemines parish says that Bobby's a shoo-in!

Rustydog:

Bring on Gov Crist. That will really send the Democrats into a major tail-spin.

trifecta:

I want Mittens. Tweety can start drooling again about Mittster's shoulders, Plus we get Tagg back. I miss me some Tagg.

Aaron:

Lindsey Graham is more likely to be picked than any of these people.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"I sure wish MS would ask McCain a series of questions on whether he agrees with Hagee's various positions..."

Yes, run on that wedge in November.

Good plan.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"Lindsey Graham is more likely to be picked than any of these people."

Yup.

But let's keep the libnik press doing their little dunce dances.

Nothing funner than sloshed parrots on a short string.

Acid J:

Romney has advisors? My god, what does he pay them for?

billiecat:

Graham's not a likely pick. He's a McCain wannabe, and so adds nothing to the ticket. At least, nothing Crist won't.

SFBear:

Graham and Crist indeed have much in common.

Hint: You put your coat in it when you get home.

Floridian:

Rustydog,
Bring on Gov Crist. That will really send the Democrats into a major tail-spin.

You know what, he's actually a decent guy, but the conservative Republicans hate him here in Florida. They have been spending the time since he got elected trying to figure out if he is one of them or actually a conservative Democrat-which he probably is.

Problem he is a dedicated bachelor, and there are whisper's - you've no doubt noted them in the previous comments. Don't know if true or not, but McCain doesn't need to spend the general election answering those questions or trying to quell the revolt of conservative Republicans because he's got a gasp!--- liberal as his VP.

He's a good guy and actually honest, so he won't work as a Republican VP candidate. Perhaps Cheney again makes more sense.

Of course who cares, Obama's gonna crush McCain on November 4th.

Ozzie Author Profile Page:

The base won't do Crist - Schiavo.

Some like Jindal, but most think he's too young.

The Freepers are gaga over Romney.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again: Romney is willing to say ANYTHING for power, and America is ready to try ANYTHING to regain its dignity. I worry.

Memekiller Author Profile Page:

Leiberman wouldn't be throwing all his eggs in McCain's basket if he wasn't promise VP or Defense or something. He knows a Leiberproof Senate won't have him on any committees, and he's not trying to keep them. He's got a big prize in mind. I'm thinking VP.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"Hint: You put your coat in it when you get home."

And you people claim QH has bad manners?

Mark your calendars for the McCain inaugural.

obamish Author Profile Page:

"He's a good guy and actually honest, so he won't work as a Republican VP candidate."

LYNNE Cheney could kick your ass, Junior.

space:

Sure, sure, go pick Christ, or Graham for that matter. I can't imagine what skeletons may come out of the closet.

Louisiana Liberal:

Please pick Jindal. I'd love to see the national media discuss Jindal's prowess at fighting demons.
His exorcism story hasn't gotten the attention it deserves. In case you're wondering what I'm talking about, read Jindal's personal account entitled "Beating a Demon - Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare". This is not a joke. The joke is that this guy is actually the governor of my state.

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal

http://www.dailykingfish.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=224

Disenfranchised_Libertarian:

Totally irrelevant, I know. But too good not to post. From Politico - Rep. Todd Tiahrt puts Colbert's dorito sponsorship to shame.

And people wonder why Congress has such a low approval rating.


"The SPEAKER pro tempore. Under a previous order of the House, the gentleman from Kansas (Mr. Tiahrt) is recognized for 5 minutes.

Mr. TIAHRT. ``Gather 'round the good stuff.'' That's what Pizza Hut says in their ads today. But they have been gathering around the good stuff for 50 years.

Madam Speaker, I rise today to recognize the 50th anniversary of an American success story, Pizza Hut . It has grown from a single brick building in Wichita, Kansas, to more than 11,000 stores worldwide with sales of more than $1.8 billion in the last fiscal quarter alone.

Founded on May 31, 1958, by Dan and Frank Carney, Wichita, Kansas, natives, Pizza Hut represents the very essence of the American Dream. The Carney brothers borrowed $600 from their mother, purchased used kitchen equipment, and rented a 550 square foot brick building and began selling pizzas.

The business grew quickly, and in 1959 they opened their first franchise restaurant in Topeka, Kansas. By 1966, just 8 years after opening, Pizza Hut established its first home office in Wichita to oversee the booming business of 145 restaurants.

In the late 1960s, a pizza company from California was beginning to expand eastward, and the Carney brothers were faced with new business challenges. They decided that Pizza Huts would be the neighborhood pizza restaurants, with standard layouts and looks. In 1969 the red roof was instituted as the national standard for Pizza Hut locations. The move paid off, as Pizza Hut became the number one pizza chain in the world, both in term of sales and in the number of restaurants.

Frank Carney attributes the early success of Pizza Hut to the good values and solid work ethic he and his brother learned from helping their father at his neighborhood grocery store. They believed that growth would come through a commitment to quality and an attitude of service from dedicated employees.

The 1970s were a significant time of growth for Pizza Hut . They became a publicly traded corporation in 1970, opened their 1,000th store in Wichita, Kansas, in 1972, and their first international restaurant in Costa Rica that same year. Four years later the 100th international store opened in Australia and the 2,000th Pizza Hut store worldwide. In 1977 they merged with PepsiCo.

Since then Pizza Hut has grown in terms of restaurants and menu options. In 1986 they began offering delivery services. In 2000 Pizza Hut joined with several other restaurant holdings, including KFC and Taco Bell, to become YUM! Brands.

A number of events are planned to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Pizza Huts' founding, culminating in a gala at the Gaylord Hotel in the DC area here on the evening of May 31. I want to especially commend Bev Jeskie for all her hard work in organizing these events and for making sure that I remained informed of their activities.

Madam Speaker, the idea began 50 years ago in a little hut in Wichita, Kansas. It has been immensely successful. Dan Carney cites the relationships he developed, strengthened with friends, family members, co-workers, and franchisees, as being the most important aspect of Pizza Hut . Madam Speaker, I encourage my colleagues to take a cue from a couple of good Kansans: ``Gather 'round the good stuff.''

Demosthenes:

Perhaps Jindal, Crist, and Romney can share the job. The skeletons in their closets would be Clintonian in their magnitude.

Sean DeCoursey:

This is very, very interesting. It's no secret that the wing-nut crowd pretty much dislikes McCain anyways. He might just be giving up on them completely and going hard after independents by running with a gay man or a young Indian. IF, and its a huge IF, McCain won like that it would completely reshape the Republican party - probably for the better.

Louisiana Liberal:

Sean, in Bobby Jindal's case, being a young Indian and a right wing-nut or not mutually exclusive.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/TheNote/story?id=3105455&page=1

You Obama gals might want to spend a little more Time on sphincter Webb (I swear he's Jedgar Hoover in tighter slacks), and a little less Time on your stunning homophobia.

obamish Author Profile Page:

Lib definition of right wing nut: Anyone that expects American merit and not Mexican messes to fund the family's finances.

Rose:

Bobby Jindal would be perfect if he were 10 years older. I think he'll be President some day - and he'll do a horrible job. I really hope McCain picks Romney, but I don't think he's that stupid. He's a terrible candidate, and there is unfortunately so much anti-Mormon prejudice. Except on reality shows...

Crist seems like a solid candidate, and he would virtually guarantee Florida. But he probably has Florida anyway against Obama, so it makes more sense to have someone strong in NV, CO, and NM.

I really hope this is the best they can do.

SpotWeld:

I'm betting that whoever he picks, Joe Lieberman will be on hand to help make the announcement.

Floridian:

oBAMISH writes:
"He's a good guy and actually honest, so he won't work as a Republican VP candidate.

LYNNE Cheney could kick your ass, Junior."

Just whose ass are you referring to? Am I to suggest you have indicated that Lynne could kick Crist's ass? If so doesn't that violate the first law of Republicans, never speak ill of another Republican?


NH Dem:

Wow, way to lock up that xenophobic fundamentalist vote Rove worked so hard to bring on board.

Gays and cultists and dark-skinned (ex-)heathens, oh my!

Now if they could only be combined into a single candidate, you'd have a young, handsome, over-achieving, perfect-haired mega-millionaire gay ex-Hindu Indian Mormon Southern governor.

And isn't that really what America's looking for?

Or maybe, you know, you'd wind up with a dorky-looking, robotic, unnaturally tan flip-flopper. Which the GOP would be a lot more comfortable with.

Mr. Nice Guy:

> Lib definition of right wing nut: Anyone that expects American merit and not Mexican messes to fund the family's finances.

I don't know if that's the "Lib" definition, since I'm not a liberal. But my definition of "Repug wingut" is equal parts:

- fear
- loathing of freedom
- corporate shill / sell-out
- desire for order and homogeneity
- intentionally ignorant, or willfully delusional

Combine all these, and you end up with someone who can't handle reality - too scary for 'em, "Big Brother! Please save us!"; claims to champion American ideals, and "defend them from those God-less libs!", but would actually crush them with his jackboots (kept nice and shiny in the back of the closet, but brought out now and then for private photo ops); would sell out his mother / wife / daughter for a buck; hates gays, blacks, latinos, eh, I'll just make it simple and say "anyone who ain't white and hetero"; can't handle the truth about themselves or their candidate, so they make up stuff - like Rusty's adding "white man" to an Obama quote in another thread - to avoid facing the crushing reality that their party is, in fact, the scourge of American ideals and has lead to America's current dismal state where we're alternatively the laughingstock of the world, some country's new enemy, or a target for riled up fruit cakes who don't mind giving up their lives to make a point.

Have I described you to a 'T', obamish/QH/Rusty? Oh, how I wish you'd emigrate back to the "mother country." You can wear your jackboots all day long over in Russia. They love 'em! Take Bush, Cheney, Rove, Limbaugh, Coulter, McCain, MS and the other Repug nutcases with you, and leave America to those of us who actually love this country and understand that with Freedom comes a bit of responsibility and risk. Putting a cctv camera on every corner, or tapping every phone conversation, or shooting an unarmed man 53 times the night before his wedding, or making little old men and women practically strip down just to get on a plane, or torturing enemy combatants, or - and this is the direction I think they're heading - throwing everyone into a jail cell for their own safety is neither Liberty nor making America safe, you friggin' fruitcakes.

KathyR:

Cliff - here's a huffpost link to story about Hagee. I saw the video on CNN or MSNBC last night, so it's out there.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/21/mccain-backer-hagee-said_n_102892.html


As for McCain vetting these guys, my guess is he's having fun with us, diverting attention from the Dems and Hagee, giving us something harmless to talk about. Besides that, he gets to stroke the egos of these guys and stoke the hopes of any of their constituencies.

Paul-no not that one:

As Jindal has been a Governor for about 15 minutes I'm not sure how that would go over in La, him moving on so quickly is pretty tacky.

Besides I thought Governor Cul de sac, I mean Pawlenty was supposed to be in the mix.

carsick:

Not to be morbid, and maybe others in this thread already have been, but McCain is going to pick someone he thinks folks will be comfortable with as president because his age will be an issue. Maybe not in the campaigns but certainly in voters minds. Jindal and Christ don't cut it.
I'm still wondering if former congressman Rob Portman isn't on his short list.

RKA Author Profile Page:

May I humbly suggest Jeb Bush?

He's liked by all wings of the GOP and was a popular governor in an important state.

He'd be perfect!

ivb:

As much fun as these suggestions are, I agree that these are being floated just to get some chatting about it -- and away from the lobbyists and Hamas appeasing stuff.

Although life hasn't been as entertaining since I lost my Mittens, I wonder if RKA's suggestion of Jeb is more likely. However, McCain will carry Florida, so maybe he will work to shore up another state.

Or, maybe it will be good old Joe Lieberman. That would also provide hours of fun.

KYJurisDoctor Author Profile Page:

I am a BIG Bobby Jindal fan, and I'll LOVE for him to have a veep spot, but will BILLARY Clinton's "hard working Whites" vote for him and McCain in November because of his skin color?

Also, because Charlie Crist rescued John McCain's candidacy by supporting him in Florida when it counted, he deserves the veep spot, and if I were John McCain making the pick, I'll pick Charlie Crist!!

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