Obama's Speech

"If Obama is elected president, it will be because he has been the first candidate in many years to try to appeal to what is best in America: 'What is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world's great religions demand—that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us. Let us be our brother's keeper, scripture tells us. Let us be our sister's keeper. Let us find that common stake we all have in one another, and let our politics reflect that spirit as well.'"

Charles Kaiser, http://www.radaronline.com/features/2008/03/obama_jeremiah_wright_full_court_press_01.php

Joe - thanks for these comments. I, too, thought the meat of what he said, both intellectually and emotionally, was what he said about his grandmother. We've been in the business of demanding people be thrown overboard this week, but we can't throw our grandmothers overboard. Most of us have had to make choices at some point about whether and how to keep friends who have said deeply offensive things. Some of us have said offensive things ourselves.

How the media will play it will depend in part, of course, on whether you're willing to continue to say what you've said above.

Thanks, Joe!

He put his campaign on the line with this speech.

At the very least, I think he senses an opportunity, given the change in paradigm about race, to actually say something worthwhile and inclusive on the subject of race.

It might be important to remember that the church was central to Black Americans before and during the Civil Rights era. The firery rhetoric and emotional appeal were needed to energize their congregations to go out to do another days' work against odds that were less than favorable.

Considered in that context, it is easy to realize that Rev. Wright is a holdover, or a dinosaur, so to speak, of the past - and Obama said just that.

I look forward to the more thoughtful analysis that will come later, but as for the "tawdry question," I'd say early signs are encouraging. Even if the complexities are not being teased out, the message seems to have gotten through that he was attempting to speak honestly about race in America. Oh, of course there are those who can't or won't see it that way, but they never will, will they?

Joe, you were the bright spot on ATC.

I find Meeechelle irritating and simplistic. Now that she has moved up to be a Sunday show guest, she is even more tiresome. Maybe with a little research, she could learn that the National Constitution Center is the place in Philadelphia for this sort of thing these days. In fact, that's where the April debate will be held. Hope she can see all the flags then. Since I was half listening before I heard you, I assume it was Michelle, if not, the first sentence applies to Melissa as well.

Whenever Gene Robinson is on these days, I flip the channel. He has become such a shill for Obama, he really does his candidate no service.

That said, your comment about the media treatment is very spot on. The people who will never go further, need to get some sense of the reality of the speech.

I heard two old white guys talking in the gym today -- did you hear he was going to give a speech. Doesn't matter, he'll say something to make people get over it, then it will all just go back underground. I assume they are heavy duty Repub talk radio listeners and would never vote for Obama anyway.

It would be a good thing if some main stream persons would point out the harm that all this blather from Rush, etc. does to the possiblity of the things Obama speaks about coming true.

Joe:

"It would be a good thing if some main stream persons would point out the harm that all this blather from Rush, etc. does to the possiblity of the things Obama speaks about coming true."

I hope you do touch on the issue of Republican identity politics. It is an itegral part of the problem.

Personally, one CAN be conservative without having to carry racial baggage - something the current crop of Republicans have forgotten.

Hello,

I wanted to comment on Barack Obama's speech and race in general. I am 48 years old White who through ignorance on my part have used racial slang. As I get older I realize that racial slang is hurtful and congers a time in America history that is sad indeed. With that said I would like to voice an opinion that I feel people of color should understand. For the biggest part of my life I have heard African Americans say that the “White Man” has wronged them. please read on. The majority of this county average working men and women both African Americans and Whites have both been wronged by the so Called White Man. These are the high influential politicians and wealthy business people who wrote our constitution and bought slaves to start with and still continue today to set policy that suppresses the majority of this county. The majority of the Black and White race is nothing but a yo yo on a string just who is just making ends meat. It is the influential White man who should be dammed not all White people. Believe it or not we have been craped on too.
My hope is that a man like Barack Obama can bring the people who represents 90% of our country the “ Working Class” both Black, White, Latin, etc. together and let us have a say in our government. I have met and spoken with Barak Obama I see him as a great man who can lead this county in the right direction.

Sen Obama showed courage in giving a risky speech

He wrote it himself - and as a product of a unique heritage Sen Obama is in a position unlike 99% of the rest of us -- he has grown up and come of age in the white and black cultures of this country

Barack Obama represents something we have not hadfor many years in this country -
authenticity
brillance
courage
vision

He spoke to us as if we are an intelligent populace

Would be nice if we proved him right in November 2008

Obama's "stunning speech" just equated his grandmother with her small bit of personal racial problems (please remember, she accepted a black man marrying her daughter, and then helped raise and support her mixed-race grandson when the father deserted his family), with Rev. Wright, who said to his church that white people created the AIDS virus to kill black people. If I was his grandmother, I would announce I was supporting Clinton.

And if you stop saying for a moment how great Obama is and how smart we are for supporting him, maybe you might realized that in his speech he admitted to lying to the American people. On Friday he was swearing on every bible he could find that he was not there, he did not hear, and never knew what his pastor was saying. Today he said he did know.

So you all go ahead and hear what you want from his speech, but remember, many people will hear that he lied to them, and that his judgment sucks.

And then go ahead and tell the world that it is ok for small children to hear racist rantings in a church of the Lord.

Me, I would rather know the grandmother than the grandson

Jim:

Looks like you bit into the Fox sound-bite rearrangement without any appearant concern for the truth.

Read the last line of Joe's commentary.

I think you walked right into that one.

As the sound bites of Rev Wright swirled, I asked myself “who are we to judge a man in a few seconds taken out of context?” I then did what I usually try to do and sought the answers for myself.

I found a pastor who a number of people say has done a lot of good. He has an impressive, extensive resume. I then looked up and read some of his sermons. If you’re looking for a good sermon to read, they don’t get much better than “The Audacity of Hope” but that wasn’t his only good one.

I don’t expect anyone to take my word for it and I haven’t finished my search with firm conclusions yet. What I can say after what I would regard as an objective search so far is that Rev Wright has definitely done a lot of good things in his life. It’s a shame and a disappointment that the media hasn’t taken a closer look for themselves.

There are so many things I feel that I could say. Yet to try to say very much while lacking the eloquence of Mr. Obama flirts with tainting his words today. However, in the face of networks like FOX going with sound bites and superficial journalism, I figured it was worth the risk to try to say something to offset the shallow journalism Americans are being fed in this campaign.

History has shown that the President of the United States is faced daily with weighing the words, the wishes, the rhetoric, the anger and the debates presented to him by Republican vs Democrat, Jew vs Muslim, Black vs White, Big Business vs Blue Collar Worker, Men vs Women, country vs other country, etc. History has also shown that we can find some good in most people and substantive reason on either side of a good debate.

What I saw today was a man forced to come to terms with his ideals, his beliefs, his circumstance and having pass judgement on the world stage on someone else’s timetable. Under pressure to throw his pastor under a bus and take the easy political way out when it was so convenient to condemn, this man gave us something different than what we usually get from so many politicians. He stuck with that he really believed in his heart. He found the good and the bad in Rev Wright, the good and the bad in White vs Black and good and the bad in America. He was able to communicate his findings of where we are today clearly, cut to the more important broader issues and suggest a reasonable, sound path for the American people to follow.

I can only speak for myself but I haven’t seen a politician do that since they shot Bobby Kennedy. Obama truly moved me today. In very difficult times, I feel fortunate that he presents himself as an option. I hope Americans and their media struggling with Rev. Wright and Obama’s position can find their way clear to look closer and harder. They may be surprised to find that it ain’t all bad.

I don't know if Barack Obama will be the next president but I strongly suspect that American history will look kindly with reverance on what he said today.

53_2

Hello again. It seems we had another discussion the other day about bias and truth. Just want to say I do not watch Fox and do not care what they think. Most of them have never had an original thought, and unfortunately, they probably never will. How sad.

And yes I did read the last bit of Klein's little lovefest. So what. Read what Obama said:

"I can no more disown [Jeremiah Wright] than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe."

If that is not a comparison what is? I can't disown Wright and I can't disown my grandmother. For damn sure he can't disown his grandmother, but he sure can disown someone who has been teaching the next generation racist claptrap. Yes Rev. Wright may have done much good in his lifetime, but he has done a bit of evil too. Obama is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

If McCain was a member of that bozo's Hagge's (Damn, I just can't remember his name) church for 20 years, and then said he denounces the message but will continuing going to the church, and then gives a big speech about racism in America, people like you and Klein would still be screaming bloody murder.

By the way, if you had children, would you send them to Trinity Church?

Been nice talking to you 53_2. Take care of yourself.

(In reponse to Joe's last update)

Fox News are certainly running hard and ruthless on this one. All their flagships have run and rerun the Wright clips. Either they set this running or they want credit for it.

Thus adding many more hot, sharp pokers to the store of treats waiting for them in that special corner of Hell that would be their ultimate reward in a just Universe.

To repeat the point I made in my post earlier:
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It might be important to remember that the church was central to Black Americans before and during the Civil Rights era. The firery rhetoric and emotional appeal were needed to energize their congregations to go out to do another days' work against odds that were less than favorable.

Considered in that context, it is easy to realize that Rev. Wright is a holdover, or a dinosaur, so to speak, of the past - and Obama said just that.
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What you have done is completely bypassed his rejection of Wrights comments.

The fact that you would rather know a racist (his grandmother) then someone who says something "un-American" tells me that you don't consider racism, or it's historical aspects, very important at all.

Tell me, have you heard of Juneteenth? Do you know the difference between Juneteenth and Independance Day? Do you know why some Black Americans hold Juneteenth in higher significance than July 4th?

Answer those questions and you will have at least an understanding of what the racial "divide" really is.

As far as Wright is concerned, yes, he's angry, but he did not advocate violence. A agree that he's a dinosaur, and even Obama said so.

As for admitting tacitly that he was there while he was spouting his rants, I'm going to ask you why you aren't spending your time criticizing Lott, who spent 45 minutes attacking fellow Americans in the name of a dead racist senator.

That sort of behavior you speak not a word of, despite that Mehlman, the former head of the RNC went before the NAACP to apologize last year for 30 years of such conduct in the Republican party - and continues this very minute on right wing talk shows.

Not a WORD from you. Not a word, and they do "Wrights" nearly every minute of every day.

There is racism on both sides of the divide, but until you understand, WITHOUT anger, just why Juneteenth might be valued and July 4 less so, you will NEVER cross it.

As for my children, they share a Black heritage, and I would probably not object if they went.

It would CERTAINLY be a better church then Pat Robertsons' offerings or Falwells, WITHOUT a doubt.

Cleduc:

People like Jim are unwilling to cross that divide. They want to stay mired in percieved "injustices" they've suffered from the Civil Rights fallout.

Never mind they are stirring the pot that cooks the stew they critices others of partaking of.

BTW, Jim:

The last time we crossed swords, I caught you in a contrafactuality (yes! I'm ephemizing the HELL out of that concept!) when discussing bias and truth.

Any time you want to serve up more, I'll be more than happy to correct the situation.

Jim,

That passage about his grandmother was in the book he wrote 13 years ago. It was not ginned up for a speech today.

It is clear that you choose to see through this lens and empathy is not a strong suit. Fair enough.

My father is such a person (like Obama's grandmother). He is a deeply loving man but harbors some very old school views on race that I find deeply abhorrent. But I love him because he has taught me so many amazing lessons and has loved me and my sisters without hesitation. I am able compartmentalize my father's contradictions. Love the man, hate the view. I view him in total. My father has taught me some of the most valuable lessons by letting me see his flaws as well as his deep intelligence. I am able to take the good and reject the bad and still love him completely

Obama clearly views his pastor (clearly a father figure for him) in this lens. If these 4 clips are a deal breaker and you feel this is all we ever need to know about Jeremiah Wright, then godspeed to you. I'd hate to have 4 Youtube clips define me in all my complexity.

Peace.

I am a biracial woman, under 30, who identifies as black, just as Obama does. I am also a woman who was raised by her white mother and white grandmother in a white church. As an adult I have found myself in both white and black churches but rarely a mixed church. Obama's statement about that segregation on Sunday morning could not ring any truer for me.

That said I am a woman who has witnessed first hand individuals who love ME but say the craziest things. White relatives and elders who insist, though I am an exception, most blacks must be criminals, "Why else would so many be in jail?" Black relatives and elders who insist that despite all the progress in the past century every hardship they face today is because all whites hate blacks, "Except for your mother dear."

I will say it now and many more times in my life, a biracial person gets race relations because they live race relations.

Obama's example of his grandmother is the example of all who love us and get it wrong once in a while.

Let me tell you: in the black community our elders, who we respect and honor, often are viewing the world through a lens of history our generation cannot fully appreciate. Wright is an elder in Obama's community...

And as any of us who have gone to church on a regular basis know-with a minimum of 52 Sundays and 52 sermons, that preacher is bound to say something you disagree with!

The church is a place for discussion and communication, communication is not always standing in agreement with every word spoken. It is also about having some disagreement and healing. Obama could hear the things he heard and return to that church with a forgiving heart? Sounds like Wright did teach him a thing or two about being Christian...

Beautiful KHT that deserves a wider audience than a comment thread.
Thanks for posting.

Obama speech is exactly what his campaign has been about-change. After reading so many comments from people who thought that his speech was different proves he has change the way we view a presidential candidate.

The sad part about his speech is that it wasn't able to touch the ones with so much hate in their hearts. Their hearts didn't feel, didn't care to listen to the words he was saying. Those are the one's who will remain divided because of hate and they are the ones we will have to pray for so they too can change.

"Surprise! Fox News just cut off the Obama soundbite at the end of the first sentence...then, later, added a shard of the business about his grandmother--in an accusatory manner, as in: he even accused his grandmother of being a racist...but then, they're fair and balanced."

And CBS and NBC have, to this day, not shown the part of Rev. Wright's 2001 speech in which he said the US earned the 9/11 attacks, Mr. Klein.

Since Obama speech and after doing the math it seem like Obama has picked up another super delegate.

I have to take yet another swipe at Jim this morning - and people like him over the AIDS comment.

In the 1940s in Alabama, medical experiments were run to see what the effects of untreated syphalis (spelling) were on humans:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male

NOW, Jim, I would like to see you revisit THIS statement:

"...with Rev. Wright, who said to his church that white people created the AIDS virus to kill black people. If I was his grandmother, I would announce I was supporting Clinton."

What I would say now, Jim, is that maybe it's not such an outlandish, paranoid thing to say. I don't think that even his statement was racist. Do you see why that might be?

Try this word on:

Precedent

This morning on Morning Edition, Juan Williams made the same point about the speech as Jim did above --

"Obama's "stunning speech" just equated his grandmother with her small bit of personal racial problems (please remember, she accepted a black man marrying her daughter, and then helped raise and support her mixed-race grandson when the father deserted his family), with Rev. Wright, who said to his church that white people created the AIDS virus to kill black people."

Williams thought this was equating them and totally wrong. Guess he has spent too much time as a token commenter on the "Fair and Balanced" network.

ivb:
Yesterday, I had totally forgotten about the Tushkegee experiment.

The fact that it took place places Rev. Wrights' comment about AIDS in a different light. It might actually be offensive, but I would hesitate to call it racist because there is precedent for these type of suspicions.

"This morning on Morning Edition, Juan Williams made the same point about the speech as Jim did above --"

IVB: I heard the same interview on NPR this morning and I was so frustrated, not only by Juan's completely clueless answer, but the question being phrase the way it was by the host. She didn't bring on Juan to talk about the larger issue of race or how important Obama's speech was to all Americans, but to cherry pick parts of it and take them out of context.

I also listened to Joe's inteview yesterday on NPR and I was struck by how Joe seemed to have no trouble what so ever in understanding the message from Obama, but the host again was clueless. Her last question I think was about how many friggen flags were behind Obama. Huh?

Joan Walsh at Salon doesn't get either because she writes an editoral today saying she doesn't buy how Obama's grandmother and Wright could be compared. What is there to buy? Obama is clearly saying he is not running away from people he loves and who love him because they say stuff out of frustration that maybe hurtful to other people.

I just don't see how people are getting all bent about the comparison between Wright and his grandmother. His point was a very basic one: people raised in different contexts and in different times have their own biases and resentments which are out of touch with our times but which have a basis in the experiences of their own lives. Yes, Wright's comments are more "incendiary" (using Obama's words) than his grandmother's fears, but his point wasn't to say "Wright is the same as my grandmother" -- his point was to say that there are people in our lives who say outrageous things that we don't agree with -- but because we don't agree with everything they say doesn't mean we kick them out of our lives completely. People have to be viewed in their context, and what they say now and again also has to be put in the context of the totality of their person -- that was his point and it was as plain as day.

I saw the entire speech. It was brilliantly crafted, no doubt, and Senator Obama did touch on many aspects of major importance in the issue of race and racism in America. No doubt, Senator Obama is a great speaker and an outstandingly intelligent and clever man.

I will begin by saying that many of the things that Reverend White said in those clips are not, I repeat, are not news. These are thoughts and sentiments that have been circulating among many people of many colors and nationalities for a while now. Also,to hear them, ponder them, consider them is one of the few perks us regular folks have. Those who are running for important offices like President of the United States are wise to know about these "theories" but not be part of the dissemination of them. Calls to question JUDGMENT.

Thus, I found certain aspects of his speech disturbing. First of all the set up. It was boldly presidential as if he already were the nominee or the President of the United States. I know to some this might petty but I find it highly revealing. I don't care how far ahead he is in the delegate count, he is not the nominee yet and actually he will be the nominee if and when either Hillary Clinton (if she chooses to bow out) or the Democratic Convention decides to give him the nomination, at least that is my understanding of the matter.

Secondly I found Senator Obama's eloquence artful and skillful to a point of spinning his mistakes in such a manner that it would make us forget that he denied that he knew his pastor spoke like this. He right out lied and the problem is that he lies because he keeps getting away with these missteps that are becoming more and more evident as time passes by.

When the Monica Lewinsky scandal happened, I was appalled that the American people demanded that Bill Clinton humiliate his wife and his child on National Television admitting to his stupid indiscretions with the young intern in the oval office. In the world I live in, your sexual life is yours no matter what you do with it. So he was persecuted for that. Barack Obama lies or misleads the public this way and the media is giving him a pass because they are simply enamored with the poetry of his speeches. Plus, who is he to give a speech and not answer the media directly? Which is what he did. I will give answers in my speech tomorrow he said to the media on Monday. Does the American public realize what is going on here?
This man is getting a free ride from most of the media in a way that is more than troubling, it is frightening, really.

I prefer candidates who are flawed, who have been through mistakes and risen (and by this I don't mean drug use as a youth) from them because at the hour of the hour, they will be more compassionate in their deliberations and guidance of a country.

I am not as sure about Obama's leadership if he is to be elected president for I find his arrogance and sense of invincibility worrisome.

And when he said he would not be the one to bring the country together, (because of his "humility")everything else in his speech said other wise: it is only through him that America will find its true self, its soul, its goodness, its lost nobility.

At the end, it will be what it will be. If Barack Obama is unquestionably a phenomenal individual so is Hillary Clinton and yes, John McCain. This is what the people in the United States fail to see and appreciate about the candidates in this particular. I want to see what kind of slack the media gives the other two in the days and weeks to come, precisely, because they are not African American.

"I am not as sure about Obama's leadership if he is to be elected president for I find his arrogance and sense of invincibility worrisome."

There is one person running of all three who seems to have a sense of arrogance and invincibility. It's not Obama and it ain't McCain.

I have hear Obama say many times that his is an improbable story and he is not perfect.

"Secondly I found Senator Obama's eloquence artful and skillful to a point of spinning his mistakes in such a manner that it would make us forget that he denied that he knew his pastor spoke like this." and then

"I prefer candidates who are flawed, who have been through mistakes and risen (and by this I don't mean drug use as a youth) from them because at the hour of the hour, they will be more compassionate in their deliberations and guidance of a country."

WTF?

GySgt213:

This fake claim of imperfection, by Mr. Obama, is placed there to placate the perception of arrogance so many have of him. His entire candidacy is based on arrogance. Thin record, thin experience and the whole notion he can get away with everything and anything and not be called on it because, well, He Is Barack Obama.

The fact that he did not take questions from the press on this matter a couple of days before his speech but said that the answers would be in it (his speech) is arrogant. I would have liked to see another candidate handle the press like that and get away with it.

There is not much to do here, those who are in love with Obama will say that his speech were the words of the Lord channeled through Barack Obama and will not accept anyone questioning Mr. Obama. Those who don't like him will not see anything valuable in it.

Those in the middle are left with many questions, the most important: judgment, judgment, judgment. He has shown over and over again he is lacking big time in judgment. And by the way, I don't think he should have left his church and Wright can say whatever he well darn pleases. That is their right as Americans under freedom of religion and freedom of speech. But if you are going to run for the Presidency of the United States then think twice about the company you keep. You are free, yes, but at the risk of going through what Mr. Obama just went through.

And what I meant by the WTF comment is, Mr. Obama believes that because he "went through" what he went through growing up, he is superior and is entitled. He really hasn't been through the mistakes, humiliation, and harrowing experiences that the other candidates have been through. Drugs? Not enough. Clear?

That speech was a great repudiation of all the usual racial bullsh*t the previous generation wallows in and the MSM buys and sells.

poh123:
"if you are going to run for the Presidency of the United States then think twice about the company you keep"

Every elected to office keeps company with other politicians, and a lot of politicians are dishonest. Therefore, no politician should ever be re-elected. Right?

Guilt by association is no guilt at all.

And how is what you're saying different from any candidate who is making a successful run for the presidency? You don't think Hillary Clinton and John McCain feel entitled and "superior" to the people who are already out of the race? They are superior, at least in popularity among voters.

"His entire candidacy is based on arrogance"? Since arrogance and audacity (i.e. of hope) are fairly synonymous, I won't argue that a kind of "arrogance" isn't important to his campaign except to point out that we can throw euphemisms and pejoratives around all day without establishing anything except, again, that we do or don't like somebody.

I'm not an Obama supporter, but your reasons for disliking him are very contrived.

One thing we can all thank Pastor Wright for:

He has exposed Obama for what he really is, and he will never win the election.

Phew !!!! Wonderful escape !!!! America is soooooo lucky !!

Hillary won't win either.

So it will be McCain.

By 2012 Americans will be sick of the Republican Party, even in its mild McCain form, and will be ready to fall like ripe plums into the wide and waiting lap of that good clever patient wise man, Al Gore !!!!!

PERFECT !!!!

Obama? He will just be a bad dream. He will even lose his Illinois Senate seat now that the fool white liberals who voted for him can see what kind of a snake he is. Obama will go back to that frightful hate-church of his, making hate-sermons every Sunday. Like an evil sinister slimy hypocritical character out of Dickens.

A fitting end.

Byebye Obama!!!!

Ganpat Ram:

All Pastor Wright has exposed is that Obama is a Christian not a Muslim...

ByeBye misinformation!!!

To 53_2:

My, my, my. It seems I upset you and a few others. Good!

First, it does not matter when the passage about his grandmother was first raised. It was crap then and it is crap now. Empathy has nothing to do with Rev. Wright and Obama. Yes, I empathize with his grandmother. I come from a long line of Southerners, some of whom fought in the Civil War for the South. None of them ever owned slaves because the were poor farmers. My grandmother was an equal opportunity bigot, disliking anyone, white, black or hispanic, that was not a Southern Baptist from Oklahoma. What I learned from her was that I did not want to be like her. My mother grew up in a small Oklahoma town where north of the highway was white, and south of the highway was "N****rtown". The local police were nice enough to drive any black man home if he was found in a white area after sunset. Of course, they first beat the crap out of him with their nightsticks. This was in the late 30's and early 40's. It was not until she saved enough money to go to a Nursing school in New Orleans that she realized how wrong her home town was. The hardest thing to overcome is what you learned when you were a child. She would tell me how bad things were, and felt sad that she had never noticed this and had just accepted things as being normal. Yet this same woman pulled me out of Catholic School because an old Nun had made a racist comment in class. Catholics have their bigots too. She also told the old Irish pastor that such comments were wrong, and if she heard him say any such nonsense, she would first write the Bishop and complain, and then find a new church to attend.

I lived in Chicago and its suburbs for 30 years. In that time I voted for Harold Washington for mayor, not because he was black but because he was the best person for the office. I have voted for whites, blacks and hispanics, men and women, and the only thing I care about is if they are qualified for the position they are running for and what they stand for. Hell, if you were running for office and were qualified I might even vote for you. I still regret that I moved to North Carolina too late to vote against Jesse Helms.

But one thing I learned from my mother is that what you say is unimportant compared to what your actions are. Saying you are against something while you still take part in it says that no matter what you say, you still agree with what you are doing. Or, actions speak louder than words.

So this is where I came from. I will not associate with people that promote racism, hatred, or religious intolerance. I am a scientist, and as any good scientist will tell you, race is a meaningless term. If the current theory of man's evolution is correct, we were all black 200,000 years ago. And if I and my descendants move to Kenya, within 5000 years we would be black again instead of the faded pinkish color I am now. So why should any one be judged by their skin color. Yes racism exists. People tend to be against those that are different from their kind.

But back to Rev. Wright and Obama. A man can not be deeply loving when he preaches that blacks are good and whites are bad. And any idiot knows that churches were and are central to black life and culture, just as there were for the Irish, Germans, English and all the other groups that are part of this country. But the black people I have known all talk about a loving God, and the need for charity and understanding. And they talk about the importance of saying what you think and living that way, of respecting others (and to get out there and vote!). Yes, this is just my personal perceptions of what my black friends say, but I have no reason to disbelieve them. Friday, I asked a black man who I play soccer with, what he thought of what Rev. Wright was saying and preaching, and he was appalled, and he said he could not understand why any person would listen to such nonsense.

Again actions speak much more loudly than words. Rejecting something means nothing if you continue listening to the message.

So we are all agree that racism still exists in the US. How are we supposed to eliminate racism if we continue to teach the next generation that racism is all right? My nephew was told in school "do not do drugs", so he told his teacher that his father must be a bad man because he uses drugs. He does use drugs. He takes drugs for high blood pressure and his ulcer. Children do not have the knowledge or experience to decide what they have heard is true or false. So you preach that white people are bad, children accept what you say is true, because you are the adult, the teacher, or the preacher. I believe Trinity Church follows Black Liberation doctrine which says (very simplified!) blacks are good, whites are bad. Check out the church web site.

So if Obama wants to end racism, let him start by rejecting this one source of racism.

Finally (thank God, since this is much too long), it does not matter in the least if I know what June 10th is or means. I wrote a comment about one topic, which is Rev. Wright's and Senator Obama's relationship, the lie that Obama told about the relationship, and what I thought he should do. If this was an article about the now dead Falwell's or Robertson's view of religion, life, and pursuit of their version of reality, I would be happily writing against them and any other religious fanatic that think they have a direct line to God. I reject them as much as I reject the teachings of Rev.Wright. And the less said of the Republican party use of race to gain votes the better. It was disgusting then and it is still disgusting now. To me, religious fundamentalism is one of the most dangerous things the world faces today, whether it be Islam or Christianity. So yes I understand what the racial divide is, just like I understand what the religious divide is.

If you do not like my comments, that is fine with me. I never claimed to be the only one that knows the truth. So feel free to disagree with me. We might both learn something. Just don't attack me for what you think I said or what you think I believe. Just attack me for what I say and do, because you do not know what I believe. You only know what I have said in the comment.

So I leave this discussion with my version of Obama's motto.

"Words matter, except when I say them, or Michelle says them, or Rev. Wright says them!".

That said, I'm moving on. It's been fun.

Is Barack Obama the person to takeover the reins of the United States of America?
Written by wdmll on Mar-16-08 9:03pm

From: wdmll.blogspot.com

I have been watching the throngs of Barack Obama supporters as they swell the political gatherings. They appear go be in the presence of the man that is going to take this country forward, to leave behind the shackles of the past. He is the champion to mend the divide between the races. The past is the past and the future leads to the land of milk and honey. Where a person’s creed, race and social, economic standing, will not stand in his or her way, in the new world of change. Obama is the vehicle of change that will erase all the injustices of the past. The white man can ease his conscience for the sins of his father and his father’s father. The black man can now stand-up and say it is time, time for the oppression of the black man to end. This country is now ready for a man of color to lead us all.

So Obama is that man, his shining torch will lead the way. But what do we really know about this man. He is very successful, both he and his wife are highly educated and they appear to have the perfect family. The American dream that should be available to everyone apparently has been achieved by the Obamas.

He has had a different upbringing than most African Americans. He was born in Hawaii to a white mother and a Kenyan Father. His mother, not an advocate of religion, was a self-proclaimed atheist nor was his father, a devoted Muslim. His parents divorced when Obama was of a very young age. Obama and his family went to Indonesia where Obama spent a few years in different schools. His racial make up would not have been an ethnic obstacle in his younger years in Hawaii or Indonesia. Through his stepfather, he was exposed to Islam. This was, by at times, going to the local Mosque with his stepfather and limited Islamic study at one of the schools that he attended in Indonesia. He returned to Hawaii and lived with his maternal grandparents, from the fifth grade until his graduation from high school in 1979.

Obama was afforded an exceptional education at both Columbia University and Harvard Law School, were he excelled. Early on, he became a civil rights lawyer and worked in community affairs. He made his way into politics both in the Illinois State Senate and as the U.S. Junior Senator from Illinois in 2004. Here we are today, Obama one of the leading candidates for the Democratic Bid for the White House.

Barack Obama and his wife are examples of how hard work can lead to the White House. In spite of the obstacles, many minorities have faced in the past; the present and the future appear to be brighter. So why are we hearing about their church minister and how he hates whites and this country is the curse of the earth? Recently, Michelle Obama has made statements about this country that might be explained by the twenty years of exposure to The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., pastor of Obama’s Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago. So is Michelle the window into the inner thoughts of Barack Obama? Has Barack Obama’s upbringing and long association with the likes of Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and others, created an anomaly contrary to the best interests of this country. Is he the person to takeover the reins of the United States of America?

wdmll http://www.zimbio.com/Non-Politically+Correct+View+of+America's+Crisis/articles/148/Barack+Obama+person+takeover+reins+United

It's funny but I found the remarks about his granny to be the most disturbing and self-indulgent part of the speech. Let's throw the old woman (who is still alive) under the bus, all in the name of exalting yourself.

Barack Obama explained nothing to me about his membership in this Church, except to lecture me and the rest of America about our racist past and to remind us that we can expiate our sins by voting for him.

His arrogance and self-absorption reached a new Zenith this week.

Instead of coming forth on the national stage as some reconciler, I really think he ought to go back to the Black community and work on it, saying "C'mon people, let’s get over it! Isn't it time to move on just a little bit?”

Senator Obama has belonged to a church for 20 years where his pastor spouts venomous anti-American lies and preaches hate, and that subscribes to a philosophy known as "Black Liberation Theology". It is fundamentally racist, separatist and anti-American.

You would think that this would-be healer of the great divide in this nation would have take some steps to bridge the gap that exists within his own Church and the country he wishes to lead, but he has not.

I heard this morning on Fox news quotes from a superdelegate that supports him, another black minister named Reverend Weeks. It's Pastor Wright all over again.

It seems that Barack Obama only knows how to associate with radical fringe elements (there is a lot more of this coming not only racist blacks, but white lefty kooks too) about whom he seems complacent and accepting, while telling mainstream America that we all have to heal our wounds and deliver ourselves from our sins. Where are his associations on the right? What has he tried to learn from them as he brings us all together?

He really ought to go clean his own house.

If he is the nominee of the Democratic Party I am fairly certain that come November John McCain will clean his clock!

THERE IS ONLY ONE MEANING OF OBAMA'S SPEECH
DAMAGE CONTROL
TWENTY YEARS TOO LATE

SILENCE IS COMPLIANCE - as it was in GERMANY
SINGING ALONG FOR TWENTY YEARS IS SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY - IT'S AGREEMENT

Barack: "I won't wear that pin on my chest". THAT PIN??? You mean the American Flag? Don't bother to do it now.

He refused to put his hand to his heart and pledge allegiance to the US Flag while troops are dying in the middle east

His wife has never been proud of America

His wife says "as a black man Barack can be shot going to the gas station".

Wow. I think they were listening quite well to their "spiritual mentor".

What "victim" talk. I think anyone can be shot in America. I think mostly WHITE people got shot pumping gas by two BLACK guys named Lee Boyd Malvo and John Allen Muhammad the terrorist snipers. Did they learn to hate in a black church like the Rev. Wrights? Did anyone tell them to quick, get out of here before you become a poisoned soul?

Mr. Obama didn't. He didn't speak out or walk out. He sat there and sang. For twenty years.

Now he's trying the "poor me" act on CNN. We don't buy his POOR ME act. Americans are tried of being hoodwinked by this guy.

I think the Obama's need therapy. They've been brainwashed into an American hating victim mentality that sure as hell doesn't belong in the White House.

He is totally UNELECTABLE in November

HERE IS THE REPUBLICAN VIDEO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

Enjoy the early preview!

Think Fast--provocative and evocative video. More damning than a Swift Boat. It's all grounded in fact. He is a deceptive man. A fascist intellectual who almost had us fooled. This story broke on ABC and Fox News; thank goodness someone in the media had the courage to stand up to the naked emperor. I think now it will become a blood sport -- all of what the video points out (and more)will become fair game as the people ask themselves, "Who is this man?".

I DON'T KNOW WHY I TAKE THE TIME TO RESPOND TO THIS ARTICLE FROM JOE KLEIN. THIS MAN OBAMA HAS DECEIVED ALL OF AMERICA WITH THE HELP OF WRITERS LIKE JOE KLEIN. HE HAS LIED TO US, HE IS A BIGOT, A RACIST, IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK, QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, AND LOOKS LIKE A DUCK, IT IS A DUCK. THIS GUY HAS NO RESUME TO BE PRESIDENT, NOTHING AT ALL, HE PICKS POSITIONS THAT ARE SAFE, HE IS A COWARD AS A POLITICIAN. HE WRITES IN A SPEECH IN 2002 THAT HE IS AGAINST THE WAR AND THEN VOTES JUST LIKE HILLARY CLINTON AFTER GETTING IN THE SENATE. HIS SPEECH WAS PATHETIC ON RACE,HIS SPEECH HAD AS MUCH CREDIBILITY AS A PEDOPHILE GIVING A SERMON ON LOVING CHILDREN. HE ONLY GAVE IT TO GET THE ATTENTION OFF HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH A BIGOT AND RACIST MENTOR OF 20 YEARS . WHO IS OBAMA TO GIVE AMERICANS SERMONS ON RACE SITTING IN A PEW FOR 20 YEARS ADMIRING A BIGOT AND RACIST, WHAT A JOKE, JOE KLEIN YOU ARE ALMOST AS BIG OF JOKE. THANK GOODNESS FOR JOHN MC CAIN.

I have a problem with Obama not throwing the Pastor under the bus. Will Obama be having him at the White House for dinner God forbid. Remember America the Pastor says we deserved 911. Maybe they should have crashed into his house.

Thinkfast

Right on, oh can I say that without being a rasist. Ive been proud to be American my entire life unlike Obamas wife.When I heard her say that I was sick to even think this guy might run this Country.I can't se how he even is a Senator. This guy is a fraud I hope Americans see through his BS.I just don.t get how people think he is capable of running America.

Is this the first year Pastor Wright, Faracon,
and other controversial black leader voted?

Who did the kkk and other white suspremacy groups vote for?

I have a Pastor who is very controversial, I do
not agree with him on a lot of issues but, I don"t leave the church because it does so many good things to help the poor and the homeless.

I can"t believe that it is 2008 and you guys are hanging (politically) a brother because he
is a member of a church with a controversial Pastor

anyone that would listen to this crap for 20 yrs and not leave the church is the same as who he listened to-mccain is a war monger and we will be figting for the next 100 yrs just like he said-if you have any brains in your head you will vote for clinton in primaries and the big election-use your brains here

We should judge a person by their actions and not their words. The fact that Obama choose Mr. Wright as his spiritual teacher for 20 years and included Mr. Wright in his election staff speaks well for Mr. Obama’s thinking and actions. Words are easy to manipulate and it is unlikely that Obama's recent speech was written by Mr. Obama anyway. Mr. Obama has a powerful and power hungry staff including his wife that will do anything to get him elected to power.
But clearly this man Mr. Obama is not to be trusted with the future of our great country. And regardless that he is ‘fashionably black’ and that many of you have some desire to prove to yourself or to others that you are not prejudice and that you like ‘black people’ with an attitude of ‘See, I like black people, I’m voting for a black person,’ such an attitude of voting for a person because of their race is the definition of prejudice.

If Mr. Obama had a lighter skin tone, there is no way he would be tolerated in as much he is aligned with a violent religious group, and never says anything substantial. He is running on ‘a premise of guilt’ that if you don’t vote for him, it is because you don’t like black people. A manipulative premise that is certain to have disastrous consequences.

I found Pastor Wright's comment's distasteful and his embrace of Louis Farrakhan abhorrent. That said, trying to belittle the anger of black Americans is not only misguided, it is wrong. The worst evil the world has faced was the Nazis in World War II. Black soldiers fought and gave their lives but were not allowed to stay in the same barracks with white soldiers and were treated like third-class citizens at best. Yet, when they died, their blood was no different from their white counterparts'. They returned home to water fountains they were not allowed to drink from, restaurants they were not allowed to eat in, and had to sit in the back of the bus.

The Tuskegee episode had the American government using blacks as experimental guinea pigs. While I, too, find accusations of the government manufacturing the HIV virus to murder blacks outrageous, any black American that was taught about the Tuskegee disgrace has reason to doubt their government. Voter suppression of blacks was rampant and even as recently as the 2000 election for President there were allegations of attempts to turn away black voters. The entire world saw black bodies floating down the flooded streets of New Orleans as the federal government stood by and did nothing while the Black neighborhoods of New Orleans were destroyed. Today, in 2008, black men are still stopped at random by policemen for the sole reason they are black. A black man trying to catch a taxi in most major cities in America has a less than 50 percent chance the taxi will stop for him.

Yes, I abhor what Reverend Wright says. I am white and I am Jewish, but I still can understand his anger and the anger and doubts of most black Americans. We can criticize him all we want for hating us, but history shows his animosity is most definitely not make believe. There were wrongs that were righted and wrongs and injustice that still must be righted, but we do our country a great disservice by dismissing everything the man said as ranting and raving. We cannot move forward if we cannot understand our past, and we must embrace one another as equals and treat one another as we would like others to treat us.

I am disgusted with CNN and all the other reporting channels at this point referring to Barack Obama and Rev Wright incidence.

When you get down to the real deal the run for President has become a RACE campaign with White American males at the for front of trying to stop a black man.

Hater's have been looking for a way to discredit Barack Obama and the Rev Wright incidnce has openned that padora's box they think!

Serial Killer's have never gotten so much press, but because a man, not a black decided that he would try to make a difference he has become a great threat to many.

I am a christian myself and thier's been many things said during a sermon that I don't agree with, but because in america we have freedom of speech Rev Wright used that freedom no matter how wrong the things he said were.

Let's be far to Barack Obama he should not guilty by association, but be judged by his own merit's and belief's.

Debbie, NY

Speaking of guilt by association...

Is it just my imagination, or is the media pairing up the photos of Obama and Wright to make the two look as much alike as possible? (Posture, angle, lighting, mid-speech appearance...)

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1724976,00.html?xid=feed-cnn-topics

We should judge a person by their actions and not their words. The fact that Obama choose Mr. Wright as his spiritual teacher for 20 years and included Mr. Wright in his election staff speaks well for Mr. Obama’s thinking and actions. Words are easy to manipulate and it is UNLIKELY that Obama's recent speech was written by Mr. Obama anyway. Mr. Obama has a powerful and power hungry staff including his wife that will do or say anything to get him elected to power. Wasn’t the person stealing secret passport information from the Department of State in Mr. Obama’s staff?

But clearly this man Mr. Obama is not to be trusted with the future of our great country. And regardless that he is ‘fashionably black’ and that many of you have some desire to prove to yourself or to others that you are not prejudice and that you like ‘black people’ with an attitude of ‘See, I like black people, I’m voting for a black person,’ such an attitude of voting for a person because of their race is the definition of prejudice.

If Mr. Obama had a lighter skin tone, there is no way he would be tolerated in as much he is aligned with a violent religious group, and never says anything substantial. And not only that, consider that the Chief of firm involved in the passport breach is Obama adviser

Mr. Obama is partly running on ‘a premise of guilt’ that if you don’t vote for him, it is because you don’t like his race. A manipulative premise that is certain to have disastrous consequences for America and the world, for we should have as our country’s leader someone with wisdom and knowledge regardless of race, not someone hungry for power.

The conscience of America's History is plagued with convenient amnesia.
Every time the opressed gars the conscience of the opressor's past and present ills they cry foul.
Is addressing the wounds from the chains, the whips, the noose and the kindleing that pains reverand Wright and the Black citizens of all the racest institutions of the world is himself a racist for doing so? How can this be? when a simular experience that is still been observed through the tokenism of symbolicly eating bitter herbs to remind them of the harshness of that bondage four thousand years later, come-on how in the world do any one in their right mind expect this terrible experience to go away. in fact the responses that Dr. wright is getting from people that is poised to repeat that gastly part of History is just ripping at the scab and is causeing even more pain.
In conclusion Dr. Wright is the conscience of racism.

This is why Reverend Jeremiah Wright said these things.
He meant syphilis not Aids, Katrina, and roosters!!!! This is what Obama speech was about too. How most people don't want to know the truth. We are healing and it seems as though this country that we are from don't care. The bible says you reap what you sow. I'm American; Never been to Africa, and I don't know anyone there.
Stop F***kn ignoring the facts. Obama did't say these things.

By now you’ve probably heard Wright’s “chickens coming home to roost” comment about 9/11. What you might not know is that Wright was quoting directly from Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq. If you watch the entire sermon, you’ll hear Wright say that he saw Peck make this comment on Fox. Unfortunately, Fox “news” conveniently left that part of the sermon out of their coverage.

From CNN:
“One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned ‘chickens coming home to roost.’ He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation. He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril.”

”The Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment

The United States government did something that was wrong—deeply, profoundly, morally wrong. It was an outrage to our commitment to integrity and equality for all our citizens. . . . clearly racist.
—President Clinton's apology for the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment to the eight remaining survivors, May 16, 1997

For forty years between 1932 and 1972, the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) conducted an experiment on 399 black men in the late stages of syphilis. These men, for the most part illiterate sharecroppers from one of the poorest counties in Alabama, were never told what disease they were suffering from or of its seriousness. Informed that they were being treated for “bad blood,”1 their doctors had no intention of curing them of syphilis at all. The data for the experiment was to be collected from autopsies of the men, and they were thus deliberately left to degenerate under the ravages of tertiary syphilis—which can include tumors, heart disease, paralysis, blindness, insanity, and death. “As I see it,” one of the doctors involved explained, “we have no further interest in these patients until they die.

He talks about katrina. Almost 2,000 died and were left for 5 days to rot. In a country where we help build the land and never got 40 acres and a mule. How happy for a man who help with poverty Aids and served 8 years in the Marines; yes Reverend Jeremiah Wright is a Veteran.
Not god damn America but damn what can you say!!
I love my country and my country loves me back.

Hillary is low down dirty vindictive LIAR..She told a whole story about her role in BOSNIA, all LIes. I Think psychiatrists have aname for people like her..Pathological liar...

Well Clinton had him at White house during his scandal. Are all Catholics gulity by association? Take a look at your Priests history, far longer than 20 years, for their MOLESTING OF LITTLE BOYS..Denounce the Catholic Church so the doors can be closed.If you sat in the pews while this was happening, what do this make you/, and don't say you didn't because you did if you were there.All the Priests ever did was prey on little Altar boys, but none of you on this blog have denouned them....

Thsi is for big Jim..Hillary is the biggest fake of all..Lied over and over about being under sniper fire..Caught dead on tape..LYING.she has no credibilty.will stoop to any level to win..just a liar....

As a foreign observer from Durban, South Africa, I feel compelled, in light of the latest developments, to comment on Sen. Clinton's latest exposure regarding her lying about her Bosnia trip and attemts to deflect attention from that major blunder by bringing up, at this late stage, the issue of Rev. Wright's sermons.

Firstly, the issue of the Rev Wright is really "old news" that was effectively relegated to its proper perspective as a result of Sen. Obama's brilliant and incisive 'race' speech. Sen. Clinton had wisely refrained from commenting on the issue when questioned previously. However, now that she has been exposed for lying blatantly about her trip to Bosnia, she has unwisely decided to comment and effectively judge and cast aspersions on Sen. Obama's character, from a carefully crafted written statement. Her intention is clearly two-fold. On the one hand this was a vain attempt to deflect media attention from her obvious embellishments regarding her Bosnia trip. However, the more sinister reason is to play the race card. She deliberately wants to incite and inflame the voters in the remaining Primaries against Sen. Obama by ensuring that Rev. Wright's comments not be taken off the front pages. And the reason for this desperate tactic is that she clearly sees no other way that she will win the majority of pledged delegates and the popular vote prior to the Democratic Convention. So by ensuring that this issue remains continuously at the fore, her clear intention is for white voters to vote against Sen. Obama and support her. If this is not racist, what is? I'm sure millions of Americans and people around the world are deeply saddened that Sen. Clinton has chosen to stoop so low.

Among the comments Sen. Clinton made was that we cannot choose our family but we can choose our church. Is she implying that even those individuals in extremely unfaithful and/or abusive relationships cannot choose to leave their spouses? If her answer is no, then, judging from the moral 'high ground' she professes to hold, one can legitimately ask why she choose to remain in her marriage to former President Clinton after the Monica Lewinsky affair - it has been reported that President Clinton engaged in three separate liaisons with Miss Lewinsky at the White House while Mrs. Clinton was somewhere in the building. The only reason I mention this is to highlight Sen. Clinton's double standards in demanding Sen. Obama act in a certain way, while she failed to do so when her husband committed something so grossly demeaning to her, Chelsea and in the eyes of millions of Americans who expected so much more moral rectitude on the part of their President.

The great danger for the Democratic Party in this latest episode and others that have preceded it, is that these issues have the potential to snap defeat from the jaws of victory come the Presidential election - there is a real danger that Sen. Clinton's tactics could cause the very party she represents to self-destruct. In contrast, Sen. Obama has tried his level best to raise the level of debate, and statistics will clearly reveal that he has to often respond to divisive and demeaning tactics on the part of the Clinton campaign.

It is obvious to me as an outside observer that the campaign has reached a level where the intervention of senior party officials is critical. To save the party from self-destructing and to give the Democratic nominee a real shot at winning the White House, the time has come for the most influential people and the real intellectuals within the Democratic Party to stop "sitting on the fence." The time to act is NOW. respected people such as Sen. Edwards, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi and all the other Democratic Party luminaries need to state in unequivocal terms that they will brook none of the nonsense Sen. Clinton is dishing out. The most emphatic way they can demonstrate this is for them to endorse the only candidate who has the potential to unite not just Americans - Republicans, Democrats and Independents - but the entire world in a new era of global cooperation and mutual harmony. The obvious and natural choice away from divisiveness and to an era of inclusivity can only be Sen. Barack Obama.

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I would like to know more about Hillary's six years on the board of trustee's with WalMart. She unfortunately, has to make alot of excuses and now she lies about her trips, she did decide to stay with her cheating spouse, NAFTA, and I could go on.

I will not vote for Hillary nor McCain and Bush.

If I were Rev. Wright, I would certainly seek the advice of a lawyer for defamation of character.

My email to Time for this article by Joe Klein was returned as "undeliverable". So I am sending it here, as it is also appropriate to this topic.

In reference to your article, "Is Al Gore the Answer", I would agree that he could be an answer. But not with Obama.

Why has America failed to see or understand the critical significance of "Obama's 20-year relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah "God damn America" Wright"? It isn't just his relationship with Rev. Wright, as the new pastor is cut from the same cloth. It is Obama's 20-year attendance and participation in what is a most definitely a "black segregationist church". Rev. Wright's sermon of several months ago was the norm, not merely an "incident". If the "skinheads" or the "KKK" openly preached their same vile hatred on a weekly basis in a white church, there would be rioting in the streets, again.

I was born and raised in Detroit. My family left the city in 1970, 3 years after the Detroit riots. I worked for over 30 years in the welfare system that serviced Detroit. I know the black churches very well. And Obama's church is identical to the black separatist churches here. On the day when OJ Simpson was declared "not guilty", college-educated black social workers in my office cheered, with fists in the air. Even though they knew OJ was guilty and had murdered 2 people. That is the ideology of these churches. That is their mission statement.

Also, your article references the damage that could be done if African-Americans did not vote in the election. Considering that they only represent less than 13% of the US population, I fail to see how damaging that could be. The rise of Obama is nothing more than another episode of "American Idol", as it represents how much thinking & research has been done by the youth of this country.

No, the US does not need a black segregationist president any more than it ever needed those who were white segregationist presidents.

NOBAMA.

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