March 31, 2008 1:39

Even More New Pennsylvania Voters

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Ever more fascinating Pennsylvania registration numbers emerged today and the PA Secretary of State is still counting. Apparently there are, so far, 4, 119,213 registered Democrats now in Pennsylvania, that’s up an additional 74,261 from last week’s tally. The state’s voter registration deadline closed at midnight a week ago today. In my voter registration story last week, I only had numbers through the week of March 17. The totals so far for the week of March 24 (which really is one day, last Monday) are pretty amazing: 33,281 Republicans and Independents changed their voter registration to Democratic and 44,867 new voters registered that day. Again, these aren’t even the final tallies, which are due next week.

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Reader Comments (38)

53_2:

I'm worried about some of those "crossovers" though. There is the possibility of those being part of the Limbaugh/Hannity "operation chaos"...

Posted by 53_2 | March 31, 2008 1:47 PM

Time4Tolerance:

It is the excitement of the people to make sure that Hillary is the winner of the primary and they will not allow the pro-Obama media types like Time to deny her the Presidency that raises the number of people registering. Hillary will not be stopped.

Posted by Time4Tolerance | March 31, 2008 2:00 PM

TomT:

This is really bad news for Democrats.

Posted by TomT | March 31, 2008 2:00 PM

McCain Fluffer:

This is obviously good news for John McCain and the Republicans!

Posted by McCain Fluffer | March 31, 2008 2:08 PM

Time4Tolerance:

Let the republicans gloat all they want - they know that they will not be able to defeat Hillary after she wins the primary and that all true democrats will unite behind her - even upstart Obama will get in line to support Hillary and will be rewarded with his own presidency in 2016.

Posted by Time4Tolerance | March 31, 2008 2:09 PM

along:

I don't think they all are from that one final day; forms that were mailed in could be postmarked by that day. This new tally seems to be from the late mail-ins.

Posted by along | March 31, 2008 2:09 PM

Paul-no not that one:

"The totals so far for the week of March 24 (which really is one day, last Monday) "

Huh? Could you clarify that please?

Posted by Paul-no not that one | March 31, 2008 2:12 PM

Time4Tolerance:

There is no one in PA who doesn't think Hillary deserves the primary and the Presidency. Even Republicans are lining up to vote for her because they now understand what a great candidate she is!

Posted by Time4Tolerance | March 31, 2008 2:13 PM

Jay Newton-Small:

Paul-no-not that one,
Registration closed midnight Monday, March 24th so the numbers for that week are essentially just that one day.

Along -- It's my understanding that the forms had to have been delivered by that day, not postmarked by March 24.

JNS

Posted by Jay Newton-Small | March 31, 2008 2:31 PM

Joe:

Hillary will win the penn primary by 10-15% margin but its hard for her to get the nomination.

Posted by Joe | March 31, 2008 2:37 PM

Paul-no not that one:

Thank you I was reading that as week ending on the Monday date not the week starting on the Monday.
Poor reading by me thanks for the clarification.

Posted by Paul-no not that one | March 31, 2008 2:43 PM

Buddhaback

Joe: going by pledged delegates and basing on current polling numbers, it's pretty much impossible for Hillary to win on pledged delegates alone.

So short of a prime-time expose on Obama's love for snuffing kittens, that's a dead end.

As for the increased polling numbers, I read somewhere the Obama campaign is putting every effort into enrolling people, so I'm sure that accounts for at least some of the massive registration.

Regardless of who's registering, let's just hope the PA election commission has its stuff together and puts out enough ballots!

Posted by Buddhaback | March 31, 2008 2:43 PM

ivb:

Jay the deadline was the postmark deadline.

When Ed Rendell first ran for Governor, after being a very successful mayor of Philadelphia, 17,000 Republicans changed their registration in order to vote for him in the Democratic primary that year.

Many changed back, as I have explained in other posts because there are some areas where local offices are decided in the Republican primary (just as there are others where they are decided in the Democratic primary) and for important offices you can vote for any party you wish in the general election.

While there was enormous interest in the Rendell primary, there obviously wasn't nearly the interest there is in this election. I really doubt that the "Rush" push will have much effect because the changing requires a lot more effort than just walking into the polling place on election day and switching. I would love to know how much effect it REALLY had in the other elections, or if they are just messing with our minds.

Posted by ivb | March 31, 2008 3:53 PM

Mithras:

... (which really is one day, last Monday) ....

JNS-
No, those registrations were collected over the entire three-day period, 3/22 to 3/24. They all arrived at the department of elections on Monday because it's closed on weekends.

It's my understanding that the forms had to have been delivered by that day, not postmarked by March 24.

No, that's incorrect. Registrations post-marked April 24 or before are valid. That's why it's taking so long to get final numbers.

Posted by Mithras | March 31, 2008 4:39 PM

FlownOver:

Time4Thorazine, I think – or some comparable antipsychotic.

Posted by FlownOver | March 31, 2008 4:41 PM

Paul-no not that one:

I guess it's not the most important thing but it's weird not to get a straight answer about the time span for registrations.

Posted by Paul-no not that one | March 31, 2008 4:44 PM

ny nick:

Buddhaback writes:

"Joe: going by pledged delegates and basing on current polling numbers, it's pretty much impossible for Hillary to win on pledged delegates alone."

That's true but what never seems to get any mention is that Obama can't get to the required
2025 in pledged delegates either. He can lead in delegates but he can't get to the number required to win the nomination without superdelegates.

Posted by ny nick | March 31, 2008 4:50 PM

along:

Jay: The Pennsylvania Voter Registration Mail Application Form, downloadable as a PDF from the PA DOS site
http://www.dos.state.pa.us/voting/cwp/view.asp?a=1192&q=442984

states:

3. In order to vote at the next election, this application must be received by your county registration office 30 days before the election, or postmarked no later than the thirtieth day before the election. Military electors may apply at any time.

That postmark info does not appear on the Voter Registration Application Deadlines, but I imagine it is in effect nonetheless.

http://www.dos.state.pa.us/voting/cwp/view.asp?a=1192&q=443166

Posted by along | March 31, 2008 4:58 PM

Mithras:

ny nick-
That's true but what never seems to get any mention is that Obama can't get to the required
2025 in pledged delegates either.

I don't understand your point. Even if Florida and Michigan had not violated the rules, and their delegates were seated, neither Obama nor Clinton would have enough pledged delegates to win the nomination.

Posted by Mithras | March 31, 2008 5:00 PM

Buddhaback

My point in the delegate totals operates on the assumption that the Democratic party will congeal around the candidate with the most delegates come June 1 or 6 or whatever the date of the last primary is.

For Hillary to have a legitimate claim for the party to bump Obama, she really needs to overtake him in delegates, popular vote, or both. Since popular vote is a tad difficult to predict, I'm using pledged delegate totals as shorthand.

Posted by Buddhaback | March 31, 2008 6:22 PM

FRANK TELLS:

I WANT TO FIX HILLARY CLINTON FOR STAYING WITH BILL WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE DIVORCED HIM OVER:
1. HIS ANTIMASTURBATION
2. HIS CHEATING ADULTERY
ALSO IM AGAINST HER NOT LISTENING TO ME ABOUT VOTING AGAINST THE ANTI POKER BILL (PHONE CALLS, LETTERS) AND RECEIVING FUNDING FROM HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHEN THEY ARE ALREADY OVERCHARGING AND AGE DISCRIMINATING. I ALSO BELIEVE LIKE JOE LIEBERMAN THAT BILL CLINTON SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED AFTER ILLEGALLY CHEATING ON HIS WIFE.

Posted by FRANK TELLS | April 1, 2008 8:15 PM

Jay Newton-Small:

Along -- thanks. I stand corrected. I was going off of what canvassers were saying on the street.

Mithras -- The weekend numbers through Sunday were included in the week of March 17 stats from the PA State Department. Leaving just the Monday numbers for the week of March 24.

JNS

Posted by Jay Newton-Small | April 2, 2008 4:23 PM

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