December 19, 2007 1:37
The Hillary You Know
The chin-stroking among pundits over the Clinton campaign's "decision" to work on making her "likable" is particularly amusing considering that we've been having this conversation for, uhm, over a decade.
Even weirder is that serious political journalists can discuss this "problem" without considering the kind of writing they do about her. Because you know what stories about making Hillary "likable" do? Make people think that not being "likable" is a problem. Then again, the campaign does seem to have gone out of its way to give the media fodder for that narrative. But I suspect that the Iowans that vote for Hillary have decided that they care more about something else (experience, Bill, health care) than whether or not they like her. Her entire Iowa campaign -- up until now -- has been premised on that.
Sorry for all the quote marks.
Reader Comments (53)
This has always been channeling of right wing noise machine into the Village, plus the continued anger of the Sally Quinn salon for Bill Clinton's refusal to validate her importance.
She is a charming and vivacious person, who is intently on message because she has been left no option by a virulent right wing noise machine that streams directly into the pages of the Washing ton Post, and from there frames the narrative in the television shows. To take Chris Matthews as one example, his treatment of her is appalling, and entirely without basis. Every NYT article I've read about her being "divisive" and a "problem" because of her personality cites Republican operatives. Even off the record, you can't a Democrat who says that. You can find that about Schumer, easily.
And this ridiculous story that she is not likable is easily refuted by the stories we've seen about how effectively she has worked with Senators on the other side of the aisle--in contrast to our senior Senator, Mr. TV personality, Schumer.
She is as likable as any politician out there, perhaps less than McCain or Huckabee, but certainly much more than Giuliani or that strutting martinet in the White House.
Rather than make up stories about why Iowans vote for her even though they don't like her, why not consider the possibility that they like her just fine.
This is a ridiculous story, concocted by Limbaugh and the GRWC, and piped into the Village.
And, no, I don't think she would be a good president. But this is absolutely ridiculous.
Posted by jayackroyd
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December 19, 2007 2:04 PM
But why should members of the media carefully consider their "Hillary narrative"? They don't carefully craft narratives for other candidates do they?
For example, Mitt (He's a Mormon everyone) Romney and Mike (OMG! An ex-Baptist minister) Huckabee. How about Rudy (the lisping meanie) Guliani? Or even John (old guy) McCain?
Or are you saying that all the negative Republican narratives are carefully planned too, so your media peers shouldn't get sloppy and paint Democrats in a similar negative light? We don't want Hillary (dour and manipulative) Clinton; rather, we want Hillary (heroic, long-suffering, and "experienced") Clinton. Yes?
Posted by dpflanagan | December 19, 2007 2:06 PM
I'm loathe to defend the press corp in this sort of context but I will note that the issue of Hillary's "likeability" does arise naturally simply because the people who don't like her for whatever reason (beyond me) loathe her passionately.
Since the press couldn't reasonably cover this aspect lest they turn over the rock of civility that most mouth-foaming wingnuts can be found under, they instead have to talk in general terms about her "likability"
Like "states rights" and "family values", those who know the code know what's actually being said, and those who don't can go on about their lives without wondering what all the fuss is about.
Posted by Paul Dirks
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December 19, 2007 2:14 PM
That may be Paul. But those people don't vote in Democratic primaries.
As for the press, it seems completely irresponsible to take smears and vicious attacks that are entirely partisan, and then say that she has an image problem.
You don't see the press reflecting the deep dislike the left has for Bush. You don't see them talking about how viscerally he's hated by so many people. And that's happened without talk radio to egg it on. But do you see articles about the difficulties Bush, and the republican presidential candidates face because Bush is least popular president in modern history. Do you see references to the "smirking chimp"? Do you see them routinely characterizing him as having to overcome his image as an inarticulate incompetent?
No. Because that would be partisan.
This is no better than talking about Obama's Muslim father. There's nothing to it. She's perfectly likable. And to the degree she is loathed by people, it's because they've been fed a caricature that is irresponsible and dishonest to continue to advance.
Posted by jayackroyd
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December 19, 2007 2:21 PM
"Then again, the campaign does seem to have gone out of its way to give the media fodder for that narrative"
This is false. You are blaming the victim. Even Howard Kurtz found he could no longer ignore it, and he's a hack of the highest order. What's your excuse?
Posted by another david | December 19, 2007 2:30 PM
Ah, yes we're supposed to buy that Hillary is likable after she has unleashed the dogs:
First, there was Howard "Obama wants to meet with Holocaust deniers" Wolfson
Then, there was Bill "Drug Dealer" Shaheen.
Next, she trotted out Mark "Cocaine" Penn. (Memo to Clinton campaign, now that you have chucked Celine, may I suggest Clapton, for a line from a great song encapsulates BOTH of your central campaign messages: "She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie...(cocaine)")
And then this week, there was Bob "Hussein Kerrey (In case you don't know him, he's president of the New Secular Madrassa in New York City).
And yesterday, Clintonista Roger "Scumbag" Altman decides to do a little politics of personal destrustion himself. Here is the relationship: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/The_Clintonite_who_owns_National_Enquirer.html )
But, yes let's forget about all that. Hilary is likable. There's no way you could plausibly deny that one. Yeah.
Posted by RKA
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December 19, 2007 2:41 PM
"You don't see the press reflecting the deep dislike the left has for Bush. You don't see them talking about how viscerally he's hated by so many people."
I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but the media doesn't talk about this kind of thing because most of them are in complete agreement. They share the deep dislike that many on the left have for the President, and while they don't use the names and titles you are giving so openly, they reinforce that stereotype constantly because, to them, it's common sense.
They write more openly about the deep dislike for Hillary because they are surprised by it. "How can anyone not like Hillary?" they ask. And when they ask the question and posit answers, they think, "oh, it must be that she comes off as stern; yes, that's it."
But it's much more than that. Think back to when Senator Clinton, on network television, calmly called the accusations of her husband's affair with Monica Lewinski part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy." Conservatives have been laughing at her ever since. But now she wants to be President and, really, most conservatives would rather vote for Micky Mouse than Hillary Clinton.
Mainstream media is immersed in the culture of liberalism. That is why they cannot see the forest for the trees on issues like this.
Posted by dpflanagan | December 19, 2007 2:49 PM
"jayackroyd"
We don't give a crap about her defective, narcissistic personality -- until that defect impacts our nation's defenses, our families, our troops in the field, our borders, our freedoms.
She's a devout SOCIALIST, and like very SOCIALIST, her math skills suck.
Question: Who in the FBI is holding up slapping the cuffs on her, for accepting clearly tainted overseas funds, for Her Brazenness, and as recently as this year via multiple laundry, er, restaurant entities? Some lifer Hands Off Kennedy cop that still hates Rich Republicans more than the actual law, perhaps?
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY tm
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December 19, 2007 2:58 PM
Yes, she's got the selfish AARP (who the hell retires at age 50???) and whining teachers unions vote locked up.
Will that win the election -- or even the primaries?
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY tm
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December 19, 2007 3:05 PM
"Ah, yes we're supposed to buy that Hillary is likable after she has unleashed the dogs:
First, there was Howard "Obama wants to meet with Holocaust deniers" Wolfson
Then, there was Bill "Drug Dealer" Shaheen.
Next, she trotted out Mark "Cocaine" Penn. (Memo to Clinton campaign, now that you have chucked Celine, may I suggest Clapton, for a line from a great song encapsulates BOTH of your central campaign messages: "She don't lie, she don't lie, she don't lie...(cocaine)")
And then this week, there was Bob "Hussein Kerrey (In case you don't know him, he's president of the New Secular Madrassa in New York City).
And yesterday, Clintonista Roger "Scumbag" Altman decides to do a little politics of personal destrustion himself. Here is the relationship: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1007/The_Clintonite_who_owns_National_Enquirer.html )
But, yes let's forget about all that. Hilary is likable. There's no way you could plausibly deny that one. Yeah."
GREAT POST.
Take the rest of the election off.
Signed,
Howard Scream
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY tm
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December 19, 2007 3:13 PM
"Mainstream media is immersed in the culture of liberalism. That is why they cannot see the forest for the trees on issues like this.
Another excellent post.
May this thread live in Donna Brazille's big bra of a brain bucket forever!
Posted by QUESTION HILLARY tm
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December 19, 2007 3:18 PM
I'm loathe to defend the press corp in this sort of context but I will note that the issue of Hillary's "likeability" does arise naturally simply because the people who don't like her for whatever reason (beyond me) loathe her passionately.
Unfortunately, you never hear the media talking about "Clinton Derangement Syndrome" among the right --- certainly, not in the way that people who despise Bush are discussed and described as essentially irrational.
Posted by joeksux | December 19, 2007 4:23 PM
dpflanagan - You wrote: "They write more openly about the deep dislike for Hillary because they are surprised by it."
This is an absurd claim. Please name these staunch Hillary Clinton supporters in the mainstream media. Those that do exist are certainly a vanishingly small percentage. I'll even start you out: Joe Klein.
"But it's much more than that. Think back to when Senator Clinton, on network television, calmly called the accusations of her husband's affair with Monica Lewinski part of a "vast right-wing conspiracy." Conservatives have been laughing at her ever since."
Conservatives are laughing through their own ignorance. There was indeed a right-wing conspiracy complete with reclusive billionaires funding unscrupulous muckrakers and partisan legal societies dedicated to overturning his presidency. It has been in the news; there have been books and movies about it. Conservatives were manipulated into hating the Clintons for false reasons and they fell for it. If you want to hate the Clintons for their policies then fine; but 99% of what you were taught to hate them for is untrue.
"Mainstream media is immersed in the culture of liberalism. That is why they cannot see the forest for the trees on issues like this."
Again, please name these purveyors of liberal media. I am not trying to be a dick about this - I truly want to know if any exist. OK, I will start you out again: Mother Jones. They are pro-labor so they must be liberal because conservatives are all about the anti-labor. Mother Jones is not that crazy about Hillary because of her trade policies.
If you want to believe the myth of 'Liberal Media' then go ahead but it is another example of conservative manipulation. There have been studies that show that the media is more critical of Democrats than they are of Republicans. Conservatives own an entire news network. Conservatives dominate AM radio. Conservatives run newspapers owned by bizarre South Korean billionaires who think that they are the Messiah. Conservatives are over-represented on the op-ed pages of every major newspaper INCLUDING the supposedly liberal NYT and WaPo.
But maybe we are disagreeing because I do not understand what you mean by the 'culture of liberalism'. Fair enough. If you are defining the culture of liberalism as that which questions and challenges those in power then I completely agree with the label. Because that is just another way of saying 'the opposite of slavery'.
Posted by Terrapinion | December 19, 2007 4:42 PM
AMC:
No apologies necessary; thank you for the quotation marks.
This was a good post. I agree fully with your premise that you can't talk about Hillary's "likability" or her being "polarizing" without discussing the role of "serious political journalists" in the creation of her image.
I also agree with you that it is really weird...
Matthews asked about Clinton endorsers' "willingness" "to become castratos in the eunuch chorus"
On the December 17 edition of MSNBC's Hardball, host Chris Matthews claimed: "Every day I pick up the paper and there's another quote out there from somebody who's a wannabe, saying whatever the Clinton people told them to say apparently." Moments later, Matthews asked Financial Times U.S. managing editor Chrystia Freeland: "[A]ren't you appalled at the willingness of these people to become castratos in the eunuch chorus here or whatever they are?" Matthews made the comment in the context of discussing endorsements of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY) and specifically that of former Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE), who made reference following a December 16 campaign event to, among other things, Sen. Barack Obama's (D-IL) middle name.
Freeland responded: "Well, I'm not going to comment on whether they have been castrated or not, but what I do think is interesting is whether these stings are really going to work."
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 19, 2007 5:02 PM
...and while we're at it, I wonder if Bob Somerby has anything to say about this?
Hey! Here's Somerby on "serious political journatlist" Patrick Healy's speak-of-the-devil column in the NYTimes today, remarkably entitled "After Delay, Clinton Embarks on a Likability Tour":
Poor Patrick! He just can’t get the Vile Old Hag to tell us how gruesome she is:
HEALY (12/19/07): Admitting that her own mistakes may have fed unfavorable impressions of her is still not the style of Mrs. Clinton. On Monday night, when asked by someone at the rally why there were people who did not like her, she did not criticize herself or delve into introspection.
''There are people who will never vote for me,'' she said. ''It breaks my heart, but it's true.''
Poor Healy! A slightly younger version of Dowd, he just can’t get the bitch to admit that people dislike her because she’s so bad.
These people are simply astounding—and they constitute a serious national problem. Yesterday, we spoke telephonically with a well-known journo—a name so big it would knock off your socks—and he commented on this strange cohort. We’ll paraphrase, but fairly closely: It’s amazing to think, the gentleman said, that the world’s most powerful nation is in the hands of a group like this. And as you may know, the week’s most remarkable pundit offering came in the astounding column you can read by clicking here. One part of that piece really does say it all. (Readers, can you still say Vince Foster?) It’s very hard to explain the world in which such a startling column appears. Denial crowds in when such conduct presents...
I went and looked up the part of the piece that made Bob so upset, and it was this mindblower from Nobel Laureate Steve Adubato ("Media Analyst" is his apparent title):
...most ardent Clinton supporters know that Clinton’s blasting the media on the experience issue is a disingenuous diversion. They know the campaign is stumbling and they know it’s not the media’s fault.
What’s really ironic about Clinton’s argument is that it has been the Clinton campaign that has been exceedingly secretive about disclosing the former First Lady’s records when she was in the White House. Bill and Hillary want the media to focus on are only the positive aspects of her experience but won’t say a word about such topics as “Travelgate;” “Whitewater;” exactly how Vince Foster died; missing billing records; or Hillary’s role as architect of the failed effort for universal healthcare.
When things go wrong for the Clintons’ they have a tendency to blame others. When the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, Hillary was on the TODAY Show with Matt Lauer, blaming the whole thing on a “vast right-wing conspiracy.” And when Hillary’s campaign sputters and her polls number drop, Clinton blames the media for his wife’s problems. One wonders when either Clinton will simply step up and take full responsibility for their mistakes without blaming the media or those who they think conspire against them. Doing so would be really presidential.
Yes, isn't it ironic? Like rain on your wedding day?
Unbelievable.
It really is hard to explain such a world...unless maybe we stopped talking so much about the candidates, and started talking about the people who are talking about the candidates.
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 19, 2007 6:43 PM
I know this may be difficult for you to understand, but the media doesn't talk about this kind of thing because most of them are in complete agreement.
This is hilarious. Now that they've gotten the media so cowed into printing flat out lies for the sake of "balance" and stuffed their pages with people from the National Review and the Weekly Standard.
And so NOW the reason they don't write bad things about Bush is because they believe them. And the reason they write bad things about Clinton is because they're surprised by them.
And the reason tweety and MoDo write awful things about Clinton is because they are really conflicted. It's amazing how pathetic the argument has gotten.
And still, the Village says IOKIYAR.
Posted by jayackroyd
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December 19, 2007 6:48 PM
Commenters:
If you're still up for it, I can't leave out this excellent Eric Boehlert piece.
(Insert something more appropriate than Sullivan's "money quote" here):
I'm almost nostalgic for the days when the press paid too much attention to campaign consultants since at least those dispatches had some substance to them.
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 19, 2007 6:54 PM
"reclusive billionaires funding unscrupulous muckrakers and partisan legal societies dedicated to overturning his presidency"
Are you talking about Soros?
Posted by MFTeresa | December 19, 2007 7:15 PM
Posted by MFTeresa | December 19, 2007 7:15 PM:
"Are you talking about Soros?"
Ha Ha!
Funny joke!
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 19, 2007 8:22 PM
Ana, IMHO it's only weird because for some reason, journalists can't talk about or even admit to their role in pushing these narratives, which are often concocted by the GOP Smear/Propaganda/Brainwashing Machine.
One of the few journalists I've heard questioning the narratives is Brian Lehrer, who does an interview show on public radio station WNYC in New York. Lehrer interviewed The New York Times' Don Van Natta, who co-wrote an anti-Hillary book with the despicably dishonest Jeff Gerth (co-creator of the phony Whitewater "scandal"). When Van Natta brought up one of the tiredest narratives, that Hillary is ambitious, Lehrer asked the obvious bur rarely asked question: Wasn't he criticizing Hillary for behavior that's common among politicians? After all, is there a politician alive who's not ambitious?
Van Natta ungracefully stumbled around as he tried to avoid answering the question directly. My guess is that few interviewers or editors had ever asked him the obvious question Lehrer asked, so he really wasn't prepared to answer it.
Posted by monchie b. monchum
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December 20, 2007 1:31 AM
the vast right
wing conspiracy
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our Hillary!
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Posted by Time4Tolerance | December 20, 2007 8:49 AM
Terrapinion: "If you want to believe the myth of 'Liberal Media' then go ahead but it is another example of conservative manipulation. There have been studies that show that the media is more critical of Democrats than they are of Republicans."
I find it somewhat amusing that both liberals and conservatives seem to be convinced that the press is biased against them. As someone with little use for either major party, it seems to me that there are segments of the national press that clearly have a liberal bias, and other segments of the national press that clearly have a conservative bias. Mostly, though, it seems to me that virtually all of the national press has a profit bias. Coverage seems to be dictated more by entertainment value than by newsworthiness.
Of course there are studies showing a conservative bias. There are also studies showing a liberal bias. In case you haven't noticed, studies can be manipulated to show just about anything that you please, as long as a sympathetic group is willing to fund the "research". For such issues, I tend to put more faith in polls (or at least in polls conducted by reputable pollsters who are open regarding their methodologies). Such polls have consistently shown that more Americans believe that there is an overall liberal bias to the national media, and that many more reporters self-identify as liberals or Democrats than as conservatives or Republicans. Is your "vast right-wing conspiracy" so insidious as to be able to coordinate large-scale misrepresentation of personal political philosophy, leading all of those conservative reporters to claim that they are liberal?
Posted by Robert Sullivan | December 20, 2007 9:41 AM
I think in the beginning she got out made strides to be "likable" and think she succeeded. However, I feel the situation that she finds herself in with Obama creeping in on her in the polls is still related to the comment on the illegal immigrants and drivers license. It really illustrated to many Americans what some of us have known about the Clintons for years, this coming from someone who voted for Clinton, they will do or say anything that is politically expedient.
This illustrated her calculating and hesitancy to make a decision without consulting polls and focus groups. That is not what makes a true leader. If we just needed every Americans' opinion then the president would be nothing more than a mouthpiece and we could all take turns playing that role. The president's role is the leader of this country. One requirement is to make those tough decisions on the spot. She shouldn't have to consult anyone to make a decision and I think her display at the debate put a lot of doubt about her leadership skills. It also speaks volumes about her character.
She also is quick to remind everyone the question was unfair, that she was ganged up on, that she wasn't on her game that night. Well welcome to the toughest, most thankless, most critisied job on earth. It would have shown much more character if she had moved on and not played the gender card, not made inuendo that she was being treated unfairly by the other canidates, and saying that singling her out was unfair.
I think all these things have put that reasonable doubt in her mind. I find it also interesting that successful liberal women are also her toughest crowd to win over*. I think also she peaked to early and they haven't even gotten to the big guns yet and she took a big hit from the large double digit leads in the primary states she did enjoy.
I think most now are catching on to Senator Clinton's game. Once the commercials are put together that show her many speeches touting the many positions that she has had on the war, illegal immigration, and a host of others, it will be her undoing. Clinton's are good at getting others to destroy evidence like Sandy Berger, but she can't destroy that much evidence. Not to mention White Water and where all that money went from the Arkansas Development Financial Authority to the Caymans that was obviously not disclosed in her finacial report that was released.
She has a long year a head.
Posted by Judgement | December 20, 2007 10:02 AM
Well said Robert
Posted by Judgement | December 20, 2007 10:07 AM
Robert Sullivan - I agree with the 'profit bias' explanation completely. It has resulted in a media that seeks out scandal and conflict as a substitute for substance and discussion.
But the conservative bias is real. I only have to repeat my question: Can you name for me the components of the liberal media? Otherwise we are just trading stories about our perceptions.
The polls that you mention are interesting but I do not find them persuasive. Of course the majority of Americans believe that there is a 'liberal media bias' because conservatives have engaged in a decades long campaign to convince people that there is one and motivate them to hassle media organizations to be more conservative. This last part was their 'working the refs' strategy and it has worked - but it has also resulted in extremely poor journalism.
The poll that indicated a journalist's self-assignment means little to me as well. I care more about the journalistic product than how they vote. And the credible studies that have looked at that journalistic product have determined that supposedly liberal publications are slightly more critical on Dems than on Republicans, while the conservative publications are overwhelmingly critical of Dems and very easy on Republicans.
Plus, I can provide you a long list of the conservative media network complete with specific names of the people involved. And I probably would not even be scratching the surface.
Posted by Terrapinion | December 20, 2007 10:45 AM
Terrapinion: "The poll that indicated a journalist's self-assignment means little to me as well. I care more about the journalistic product than how they vote."
Interesting. Can you perhaps suggest a motive that might induce these self-described liberals to give a conservative spin to their reports?
"Plus, I can provide you a long list of the conservative media network complete with specific names of the people involved. And I probably would not even be scratching the surface."
Yes, I'd be interested in seeing such a list. I trust that it contains something more than Fox news and talk radio.
I'm also curious regarding why you think the Republicans would be smearing HRC at this point. One would think that they would be cheering for her in the primaries, given that Obama seems to have a lot more draw among the moderates that will decide the general election. If HRC is indeed being treated unfairly in the press, I would suspect them of supporting one of the other Democratic candidates.
Posted by Robert Sullivan | December 20, 2007 1:18 PM
Posted by Robert Sullivan | December 20, 2007 1:18 PM:
"Interesting. Can you perhaps suggest a motive that might induce these self-described liberals to give a conservative spin to their reports?"
Perhaps that motive might be the one that you were wise enough to recognize yourself: the "profit bias"...
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 20, 2007 2:11 PM
Posted by Robert Sullivan | December 20, 2007 1:18 PM:
"If HRC is indeed being treated unfairly in the press, I would suspect them of supporting one of the other Democratic candidates."
Or perhaps our sublime press corps just doesn't like the Clintons.
Maybe this is because they view themselves as part of an elite interest group whose role is to select candidates for the public, and whose personal opinions of the candidates are terribly important in this respect.
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 20, 2007 2:20 PM
...their own private Iowa, as it were (I couldn't resist).
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 20, 2007 2:21 PM
Terrapinion,
Could it be that the only ivy league journalist school Columbia is one of the most liberal colleges in the country? Could it also be that most journalist list themselves as liberal / democrat?
I would also argue that their is a bias when it comes to certain kinds of stories. Such as corruption, or sexual persuation.
Also you can read into alot of opinion in many of the stories that is not necessary. It is sensationalism and it is usually done on a liberal slant. They maybe to sell pages and periodicals as Robert was suggesting but, it happens.
Posted by Judgement | December 20, 2007 2:22 PM
Umm...maybe it would be a good idea to define what liberalism and conservatism actually means.
I don't think that we share a common understanding of the terms involved.
We can go on all day about who's "liberal", but if you think that Hillary Clinton represents "the far left", then we're probably never going to agree on who's actually more or less conservative.
Maybe that's how conservatives derive their "liberal media" theory--by ascribing to the word "liberal" whatever they feel like it means at any given moment.
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 20, 2007 3:15 PM
Stuart,
Well it is obvious that you couldn't take the dictionary defined liberalism as a true statement, you would have to combine it with bits of socialism as well. This based on the extreme views of her's to create the total nanny state style of government.
Not to mention with Hillary you really can't define her as anything but an opportunist based on her votes. So maybe you have a point. She does like to run, and label herself with that crowd for the netroots and democrats though.
As to the liberal media, that is based on the stories themselves being told, and omitting information that is prevelent to understanding why certain actions are being taken. The omission of these key details.
Posted by Judgement | December 20, 2007 5:26 PM
The thing is, Judgement, that the non-Rush listening, non-Fox News watching, non-home schooling, non-holy roller Puritan "liberalism" that you're talking about is being just plain normal in most of the most populated regions of the United States.
You're basically calling anybody who isn't one of you a "liberal". That means everybody else. So of course you think that there's a "liberal media", because they show gay guys on TV, and teach evolution in PBS science class shows, and say "Happy Holidays" because some people where they broadcast might be Jewish or Hindu or whatever. Plus, you can watch conservative television and listen to conservative radio and read conservative blogs (aimed at advertising to that niche market).
The problem with thinking that every book that isn't written by Ann Coulter is "Liberal" is that the label simply doesn't magically apply to anything not labeled conservative.
"Liberal" to Rush means "normal" to most people in Connecticut.
See the problem with your theory?
Posted by stuart_zechman | December 20, 2007 7:33 PM
I have yet to see anybody produce a list of the components of the 'Liberal Media'.
Posted by Terrapinion | December 21, 2007 11:06 AM
Judgement, the data says that most *reporters* are prominently liberal. Editors and establishment columnists are overwhelmingly conservative. I doubt it's an accident that the side of journalism actually exposed to reality day in and day out and have far more ethical standards to meet (dampening their influence on the media narrative) is not a key component of the right-wing media apparatus.
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اكسسوارات باربي
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ترتيب بيت باربي
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العاب مطبخ
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http://www.dl3u.com/
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نيك
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love
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بلوتوث
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دردشه صوتيه
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محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
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منتديات افلام عربيه
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صوتيه دلع الكويت
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دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع نجد
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http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
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صوتيه بنات الكويت
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صوتيه دلع الكويت
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دردشه صوتيه
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http://www.dl3u.com/
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http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
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نيك
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نيج
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شات صوتي
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love
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شات كتابي وصوتي
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http://www.dl3u.com/
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دردشه صوتيه
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محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
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منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
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صوتيه كامات
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صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
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دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
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منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
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صوتيه بنات الكويت
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صوتيه دلع الكويت
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دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
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http://www.dl3u.com/
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صور لميس عاريه
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صور نور عاريه
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دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيك
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ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
سكس اجنبي
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نيج
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شات كتابي
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات صوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
اغاني
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love
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سعودي كول
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خليجي
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صوتيه الغلا
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شات كتابي وصوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه كتابيه وصوتيه
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بلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثيمات الجوال
http://3sli.com/vb/
اغاني وبلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb
Posted by mohmed | August 23, 2008 10:11 AM
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه كامات
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع نجد
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
العاب
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور لميس عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور نور عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيك
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
سكس اجنبي
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيج
http://3sli.com/vb/
شات كتابي
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات صوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
اغاني
http://www.dl3u.com/
طرب
http://www.dl3u.com/
sxs
http://www.dl3u.com/
love
http://www.dl3u.com/
سعودي كول
http://www.dl3u.com/
خليجي
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه الغلا
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات كتابي وصوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه كتابيه وصوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
بلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثيمات الجوال
http://3sli.com/vb/
اغاني وبلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
عرض ازياء
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه كامات
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع نجد
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
العاب
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور لميس عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور نور عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيك
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
سكس اجنبي
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيج
http://3sli.com/vb/
شات كتابي
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات صوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
اغاني
http://www.dl3u.com/
طرب
http://www.dl3u.com/
sxs
http://www.dl3u.com/
love
http://www.dl3u.com/
سعودي كول
http://www.dl3u.com/
خليجي
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه الغلا
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات كتابي وصوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه كتابيه وصوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
بلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثيمات الجوال
http://3sli.com/vb/
اغاني وبلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
باب الحاره
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه كامات
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع نجد
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
العاب
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور لميس عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور نور عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيك
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
سكس اجنبي
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيج
http://3sli.com/vb/
شات كتابي
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات صوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
اغاني
http://www.dl3u.com/
طرب
http://www.dl3u.com/
sxs
http://www.dl3u.com/
love
http://www.dl3u.com/
سعودي كول
http://www.dl3u.com/
خليجي
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه الغلا
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات كتابي وصوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه كتابيه وصوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
بلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثيمات الجوال
http://3sli.com/vb/
اغاني وبلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
افلام اجنبيه
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه كامات
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع نجد
منتديات سكس
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
منتديات افلام سكس عربيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صوتيه كامات
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه بنات الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه دلع الكويت
http://www.dl3u.com/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
العاب
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور لميس عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
صور نور عاريه
http://3sli.com/vb/
دردشه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه صوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيك
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثقافه جنسيه
http://3sli.com/vb/
سكس اجنبي
http://3sli.com/vb/
نيج
http://3sli.com/vb/
شات كتابي
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات صوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
اغاني
http://www.dl3u.com/
طرب
http://www.dl3u.com/
sxs
http://www.dl3u.com/
love
http://www.dl3u.com/
سعودي كول
http://www.dl3u.com/
خليجي
http://www.dl3u.com/
صوتيه الغلا
http://www.dl3u.com/
شات كتابي وصوتي
http://www.dl3u.com/
محادثه كتابيه وصوتيه
http://www.dl3u.com/
بلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb/
ثيمات الجوال
http://3sli.com/vb/
اغاني وبلوتوث
http://3sli.com/vb
Posted by mohmed | August 23, 2008 10:12 AM
بلوتوث مقاطع جوال
قسم الصحه
قسم الرجه
افلام عربيه
المسابقات
ثيمات الجيل الثالث
قصص حزينه قصص رومانسيه
الالعاب
افلام اجنبيه
القسم الاسلامي
نغمات Mp3
شعر-شعراء-خواطر-كلمات اغاني
اناقه رجل
منتدى الفضائح
القسم العام
العاب جوال
تصاميم
عالم السيارات وصور السيارات
صور مقلعين
الحوار والنقاش الجاد
برامج جوال
برامج كميوتر
القسم الرياضي
صور رومانسيه
المقلط والترحيب
قسم البوم صور المقلعين
وبيكات ملونه توبيكات ماسنجر
ازياء-موضه-فساتين-مكياج
صور بنات
منتدى الجرائم والحوداث
قسم الشعر والمهايط
رسائل رومنسيه وسائط حب
اطباق-طبخ-مأكولات
صور انمى
اخبار الفن
منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان منتديات الارجوان
الارجوان
منتديات
الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات الارجوان
ارجوان
منتديات الارجوان
الأرجوان
منتديات ارجوان
أرجوان
شات ارجوان
شبكة
ارجوان
دليل ارجوان
مركز
تحميل ارجوان
دردشة ارجوان
منتديات منتديات ارجوان
أرجوان
شات ارجوان
شبكة
ارجوان
دليل ارجوان
مركز
تحميل ارجوان
دردشة ارجوان
منتديات منتديات ارجوان
أرجوان
شات ارجوان
شبكة
ارجوان
دليل ارجوان
مركز
تحميل ارجوان
دردشة ارجوان
منتديات
توبيكات ملونة
بالصور |
رموز ماسنجر
|
اناشيد مشاري العفاسي
|
مسلسل نور
|
احداث مسلسل نور التركي
|
صور رومانسية
|
مسجات جديدة
|
مهند ونور
|
سمايلات
|
برامج نوكيا n73
|
رسائل وسائط
|
حلقات مسلسل نور التركي
|
كلمات للماسنجر
|
ازياء
|
فساتين اطفال
|
مسجات فراق
|
قناة طيور الجنة
|
توبيكات ملونة
|
فساتين سهرات
|
توبيكات
|
صور بنات
|
مسجات جوال
|
توبيكات حب |
توبيكات حزينه
|
قصص اطفال
|
صور رومنسيه
|
فيديو طيور الجنه
|
براويز
|
برامج كمبيوتر
|
صور قلوب
|
شعر
|
العاب بنات
|
العاب نوكيا
|
اناشيد مشاري العفاسي |
برامج نوكيا
|
صور تامر حسني
|
انمي
|
مسجات جديدة
|
خلفيات رومنسيه
|
العاب
|
منتديات
|
مسجات صباحيه
|
صور ميسي
|
اناشيد اطفال
|
صور رمزية
|
نك نيمات |
صور حب
|
اطارات
|
توبيكات للمسن
|
مسجات حب
|
رنتك باسم حضرتك
|
مسجات مسائية
|
صور انمي بنات
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صور للمسن
|
نكت مضحكة
|
العاب نوكيا
n95 |
فضيحة نانسي عجرم
|
صور لميس
|
محول الصوتيات
|
فتح المواقع المحجوبة
|
صور كونان
|
تعليم الهكر
|
صور سكس
|
ثيمات
n95
|
ثيمات نوكيا
n73 |
لعبه زوما
|
fifa2008
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فيفا2008
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منتديات
اسلامية
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ادعية
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اناشيد
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صوتيات اسلامية
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منتديات عامة
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فضائح وجرائم
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نقاشات عامة
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سياحة وسفر
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صور
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تعليم اللغات
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تحميل كتب
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اقتصاد
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شعر و قصائد
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خواطر رومانسية |
قصص
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قصص اطفال
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ثقافة جنسية
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ريجيم
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مكياج
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منتدي خاص بال