September 21, 2007 3:59
Band of Five Brothers
Erstwhile Timeman John Dickerson schools us all on how the ad parody should be done: incredibly deadpan. Using the campaign's own materials. With not a single untruth within it.
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Reader Comments (32)
Have you ever seen such steadfast patriotism. Where is that giant frying pan he talked about?I'd like to take it and hit them all on the head with it.
Posted by Roving Eye | September 21, 2007 4:19 PM
Great response to the commenters who have movedon to snarking out of boredom, including me.
Now, that we've had a laugh. Can we find 'stuff' instead of 'fluff'. The World is a Serious Place. Cafferty says It is getting Ugly out There.
Jack's book is in the third printing. Is he working on a sequel yet. "It Is Getting Uglier Out There"
Posted by linda | September 21, 2007 4:19 PM
Fireflies at 12 o'clock!
I N C O M I N G!
Posted by Poindexters | September 21, 2007 4:22 PM
I have to do A Real 5 Brothers "The Sullivan Brothers Convention Center" in Waterloo, IOWA history lesson.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_brothers
Oops, will Vincente Fox's new book be catalogued with the growing Stack of "Burn Bush at the Stake" genre.
Posted by linda | September 21, 2007 4:33 PM
Taggy, we hardly knew ye...
Posted by Not the senator | September 21, 2007 4:37 PM
Way!
Posted by Mean Mike | September 21, 2007 5:00 PM
Cute video! I like cute videos!
Meanwhile, I discuss Romney's actual policy positions - and how they're as slippery as a Clinton - at my name's link.
Since the "journalists" aren't going to ask him to clarify these matters, I suggest that everyone else goes to his campaign appearances, asks him the questions the MSM won't ask, and then upload the responses.
Posted by Here, Time, Time | September 21, 2007 5:02 PM
Heh! Good stuff. Wonder how long it will take to go viral?
Posted by Teresa | September 21, 2007 5:09 PM
Good stuff. Did you see the footage of Republican Congressman Jerry Weller's staff beating up that reporter? Crazy, crazy:
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=35793@wbbm.dayport.com
Posted by TomT | September 21, 2007 5:21 PM
Still no word here about the Blackwater atrocity and your absurd coverage of it?
Posted by Acid | September 21, 2007 6:14 PM
Yeah Cox. Right. "How it should be done." If you and Klein had gotten your faux outrage marching orders on this one, you would have run with it too. Joe's known for doing that, but I was reealllly disappointed that *you* did.
Posted by James, Los Angeles | September 21, 2007 6:44 PM
This how a thread on Swampland should be done.
http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/09/why_drudge_is_a_disgrace_1.html#comments
Posted by Anonymous | September 21, 2007 6:52 PM
I don't see a lot of righties on here defending Romney. Could be because he's a flip flopper? Hmmmmm...
Posted by fight the theocracy! | September 21, 2007 6:55 PM
Romney is as much a flip flopper as Kerry so there should be no surprise that a lot of conservatives don't care for him. I don't.
http://time-blog.com/swampland/2007/09/why_drudge_is_a_disgrace_1.html#comments
Posted by Anonymous | September 21, 2007 6:57 PM
Loved that. Heh.
Posted by four legs good | September 21, 2007 10:11 PM
"Romney is as much a flip flopper as Kerry so there should be no surprise that a lot of conservatives don't care for him. I don't."
Must suck to be a wingnut nowadays, ANONYMOUS.
Posted by Terry C - I Hate Bush! | September 21, 2007 10:58 PM
Here's how a magazine does a great story on Iraq:
http://www.macleans.ca/article.jsp?content=20070920_100442_7900&source=srch&page=1
Too bad we had to wait for a Canadian magazine to to do it.
Posted by Sean Brodrick | September 21, 2007 11:19 PM
Nice snark!
seems to me, since Papa Mitt is talking about his sons' "sacrifices", it's legitimate to ask if any trust funds were ever set up to support those precious lads...
Something tells me these boys make the Bush Kidz look like self-made men.
Posted by Jim | September 21, 2007 11:36 PM
How about someone asks Clinton why Chelsea is working at a HEDGE FUND instead of helping out in the war that her mother voted to authorize?
I enjoyed the video though.
Posted by Buzz | September 22, 2007 12:08 AM
Sean: :)
The story that keeps getting buried that won't go away.
Blackwater investigated for ARMS SMUGGLING:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast//09/21/blackwater.probe.ap/index.html
That story broke in the Friday dump after this one:
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1664244.00.html
Posted by linda | September 22, 2007 12:14 AM
THE VIDEO YOU ARE TRYING TO WATCH IS CURRENTLY UNAVAILABLE. PLEASE CHECK BACK SOON.
Somehow I was expecting more funny.
Posted by m | September 22, 2007 1:33 AM
How about someone asks Clinton why Chelsea is working at a HEDGE FUND instead of helping out in the war that her mother voted to authorize?
? Irrelevant.
Posted by ronjazz | September 22, 2007 1:55 AM
Thanks for the links, Linda. Does it surprise anyone that Blackwater is into arms smuggling? Their organization is almost cartoonishly evil. We'll see what kind of investigation is done on this.
Oh, and Condoleezza Rice wants a "full and complete review" of security practices for U.S. diplomats? I'll bet she does, I'll bet she does.
Two good links! Thanks.
Posted by Sean Brodrick | September 22, 2007 9:30 AM
Sharp video, but what's the point? He loves Queers, hates fetuses (sorry, the other way around, total flip-flop, my bad).
The only thing that matters in Iraq is to support our troops (at least the ones that agree with us).
God Bless our brave (Republican) men and women fighting in Iraq. This whole mess will get sorted out in history books and pundit books in the years to come.
Right now, fly the flag and go to the mall. And support our troops. And David Petraeus. And Blackwater.
Goodnight John-Boy. And God Bless us everyone.
spb
Posted by Sean Patrick | September 22, 2007 1:06 PM
Keep up the drivel you Dim scumbags. I hope you enjoy your Dim run Congress' 11% approval rating. Come 2008, you'll be back in the backseat where you belong despite your best efforts to surrender to terrorists and the movedon.org whack-jobs.
What's the only thing worse than a Dim? A live one.
Posted by conosticator | September 22, 2007 2:09 PM
You mean five tools...right?
Posted by serge | September 22, 2007 5:42 PM
Yawn...So what? It is a volunteer army. Those who want to serve in the military do. What does that have to do with anything really?
So patriotism is now based on whether one serves in the military now? Is being apart of this nations electorial process not patriotic?
What have you done for this country AMC? Did you serve? Or are you just pointing out your hypocracy because someone else didn't? Just remember not everyone can have that draft dodging Clinton patriotrism.
Posted by Judgement | September 24, 2007 10:54 AM
The whole idea of a volunteer military is undemocratic. Only a few suffer so that the many can enjoy the benefits. A draft would mean that more of the country would share in the hardships and the sacrifice. Watch Ken Burns' "The War" on PBS.
Oh and yeah Mitt was draft dodger too, he got two deferments to get out of a war. I'd call that dodging service. One deferment would be cutting it.
The volunteer military today is stretched thin, Judgement, and we're at a war, remember?
Posted by Iraq Vet | September 24, 2007 11:01 AM
"Oh and yeah Mitt was draft dodger too"
So how does a draft make the furiner killing more democratic again?
One advantage of the volunteer force is that you can not to be cannon fodder.
Posted by An Outhouse | September 24, 2007 12:20 PM
Umm, Judgement [sic]--
The point of the video and our approbrium is not the Romney boys decision not to enlist, it's their father's attempt to equate their service in Iowa with our GI's service in Mesopotamia, which is pretty laughable (at least to anyone with a sense of irony and humor).
I'd agree with you first sentiment--that it is stoooopid to try and paint someone as unpatriotic for not enlisting, though you rather undermine that with the subsequent tirade against AMC and the Clintons. But Romney was asked a question, albeit a lame one, and he completely whiffed. As a presumably Romney partisan, you should take your medicine/youtube ridicule like a man and stop trying to defend the indefensible.
Posted by Poindexter | September 24, 2007 12:54 PM
James, Los Angeles- do you really have any reason to think that Klein's anger was feigned? He frequently posts visceral outrage that is almost certainly (and unfortunately) based on first impressions. Take his Michael Moore/Cuba thing. I take Moore with a grain of salt, but there really wasn't anything to be upset about, and I'm sure Klein would have seen that if he'd waited til the movie came out. It's certainly a worthy argument to say his anger over the MoveOn ad was misplaced (at least the substance part, not, IMO, his concerns over the ad's timing) but I don't see any basis for thinking he faked it.
And I don't think I've seen AMC ever come across as upset about anything since this blog began.
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