July 2, 2007 9:08
Mitt Romney Loves His "Family Pets"
I'd be happy to make this my last word on the subject, but Romney can't seem to shut up about it:
Romney said, "sometimes when the stories come out in the media they don't quite get it accurate. The kennel that my family pet used to ride in is enclosed. It's not an open aired kennel. It's enclosed and there are air vents of course at the back. My family pet used to climb up there and lie down on his own. And we love our family pets. Have always loved our family pets. And have nothing but honor and pride in taking care of great dogs. We've had quite a few."
You have fun with those "family pets," Mitt. We're moving on...
Also, full disclosure:

UPDATE: Okay, we're not moving on, clearly. So I'll add this: those repeated references to "family pet"? That's a weirdly antiseptic way of talking about an animal that you supposedly love. It's like saying "I greatly honor the male-sexed offspring produced by my spouse and myself," to describe your son. Or like naming him Tagg. And, as commenters have pointed out, the physics of the poo-problem seem wayyyyy off...
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Reader Comments (124)
Ah, there you are Cox. Fine looking pooch ya got.
Hey, I've been complaining about the Blog Comment of the Day, which features *moi* that is, they are quoting a quote I posted by Scot LeHigh and attributing it to me. Can you *please* ask them to attribute it correctly?
Posted by James, Los Angeles | July 2, 2007 9:17 AM
This is as if my family dog used to love climbing in an old cannon and laying down.
But he wasn't too keen on being fired from it.
Posted by attaturk | July 2, 2007 9:18 AM
Shorter Mitt: I fashioned a windshield! A wiiiiinnndshield!!!1!
Posted by Acid | July 2, 2007 9:20 AM
"It's enclosed and there are air vents of course at the back."
So the poop shot out the air vents?
Posted by Steve in Wilton Manors | July 2, 2007 9:21 AM
For the sake of argument, let's stipulate that the kennel was a veritable pooch pleasure palace. Can Mitt now explain why he left the dog in there until there was crap streaming down the window?
Was it a "canary in the coal mine" thing? Once Seamus couldn't hold it any longer Mitt that he probably had to let his kids out.
Posted by space | July 2, 2007 9:35 AM
Moving on? Not really.
It's not lost on the American people that the mental image of the Romney pooch on roof is a metaphor for themselves at the hands of Mitt, if not at the hands of all of the Republican candidates.
Sadly for the GOP, this story just hits too close to home.
Posted by thenekkidtruth | July 2, 2007 9:39 AM
Oh Please.
The dog'd been in there four or five hours already.
The poop didn't miraculously "shot out the airvents".
The countainer was filled with the stuff; it hadn't even been cleaned out from the last couple o' drives.
Posted by ROGNM | July 2, 2007 9:42 AM
Yeah we're really moving on.
Posted by Anonymous | July 2, 2007 9:46 AM
IMPEACH ROMNEY!
IMPEACH CHENEY!
Posted by crusty | July 2, 2007 9:47 AM
What happened in the UK and Scotland is far less important and newsworthy than Mitt Romney's antichristic actions regarding his dog 20 years ago.
Posted by Evan | July 2, 2007 9:48 AM
So, the shit streams down the back window.
How did it get out of the carrier? Out the air vents?
The dog must have been drowning!
Kinda like the country under Republican rule, now that I think about it...
Posted by lambert strether | July 2, 2007 9:50 AM
The guy is flat-out lying about some aspect of this story. Presumably the aspect that makes him look like a dog-torturer, although you never know when the lies get rolling.
So will the traditional media dig in on this? Same way they did with Al Gore's "earth tones" and Kerry's "green tea"? Somehow I doubt it.
Cranky
Posted by Cranky Observer | July 2, 2007 9:52 AM
>>We've had quite a few.
Because they keep dying...
Posted by Lonna Harris | July 2, 2007 9:53 AM
I'm still wondering how somebody thought it was a good idea to release this story.
Posted by Mysterious Traveler | July 2, 2007 9:56 AM
Good work on the Romney dog-torturing story. Most amusing.
The picture of you and your canine companion appears to have been taken from a leisurewear catalogue, however. 'Look, there. In the distance, slightly to our right. Oh, are you taking our picture?'
Posted by Adam | July 2, 2007 9:56 AM
Mitt's wife is getting in on the act too...
"Surprise, surprise, the media didn't get the dog story right. Our dog Seamus rode in an ENCLOSED kennel, not in the open air. And he loved it. Every time he saw it, he jumped up on the tailgate, walked in, and lay down. It was just like the kennel he curled up in at home."
http://fivebrothers.mittromney.com/blog/comments/151
So now the story is that Mitt built a windshield for the front of an enclosed dog kennel. Now, even with the full air circulation afforded with all the air vents being clear, the kennel would still turn into an oven if exposed to direct sunlight on top of a car. Closing off the vents at the front of the cage would make it even hotter....
So here we have seamus, baking in the little oven that Mitt rigged up for him, with no water to drink, and the dog finally goes diarrhetic from all the stress...
And Mitt puts Seamus back into the oven, and continues on his trip, after hosing off the car and the dog. (Did he scrub out the kennel as well, or was Seamus forced to get back into an enclosed space that reeked of his own urine and feces? Inquiring minds want to know.)
And I still want to know how a dog leaps from a tailgate into an enclosed kennel on the roof of a car.....
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 9:57 AM
This just makes no damn sense. "My family pet used to climb up there and lie down on his own."
How does an Irish Setter climb up onto the roof of a car? Think about that. The dog would have to jump on the hood and then to the roof.
Of course, I can't remember if I've seen a version of this defense where he actually references the dog. Could he be parsing to the extent that he's talking about a cat that used to lie on the roof of the car?
Posted by Dennis | July 2, 2007 10:02 AM
"You have fun with those "family pets," Mitt. We're moving on..."
um Ana, in case you haven't noticed, we don't WANT you to "move away" from this story. YOUR AUDIENCE is interested, and I'll bet traffic has gone up at Swampland since you started writing about it.
Or does Time want this story killed? Because that is the ONLY way that your decision to "move on" makes any sense. What you should be doing is working the phones, trying to reach Mitt's wife and kids, and finding out what actually happened, expecially now that both Mitt and Ann are "blaming the media".
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:02 AM
"How does an Irish Setter climb up onto the roof of a car? Think about that. The dog would have to jump on the hood and then to the roof."
actually, the leap would be even higher, because according to Romney he lept up from the tailgate of the station wagon....and did so on his own.
And I don't see that happening unless Seamus was part Kangaroo...
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:06 AM
Great looking puppy!
Multiple Choice Mitt keeps changing & spinning this story too. Does the man have any center? Any solid opinions?
Posted by tom | July 2, 2007 10:07 AM
Wow Ana, you're milking this Mitt Mutt thing for all you can get but you talk about Romney not being able to shut up about it. I'm sure you're pretty proud of the fact you managed to make a big deal about something that happened 24 YEARS AGO!! C'mon, is this the best dirt you can come up with for this guy who seems like a decent family man? It's a good thing I read more than just Time. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt on this one since I've noticed your obvious slant against him and the fact you conveniently leave some important facts out. Keep on dragging out the trash Ana...you do great work..for a tabloid.
Posted by T Jones | July 2, 2007 10:09 AM
Cut her some slack, p_luk. Clearly, she isn't "moving on". You don't "move on" by posting yet another comment on this story.
She is just trying to give herself some cover from accusations that Time is milking it for all its worth (i.e. "Like Seamus, I tried to get out, but Mitt kept dragging me back in.")
Stop trying to bite the hand that is feeding you.
Posted by space | July 2, 2007 10:09 AM
Ana,
Nice pet! Is your dog a Golden Retriever?
Mr. "emotion-free crisis management style" would do better to shut up since it is obvious the facts of the story are changing in an effort to repaint Mitt and family as more doggie friendly.
"It's not an open aired kennel. It's enclosed and there are air vents of course at the back."
OK, somone please 'splain for me why Mitt put up a doggie windshield if the holes were only at the back.
May Seamus, the roof rider, rest in peace.
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 10:13 AM
IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH!
That is the only way!
Posted by crusty | July 2, 2007 10:14 AM
For the love of dog we cannot let this story EVER die.
It is the defining issue of the 2008 election thus far.
Thanks for keepin it real Ana!
Posted by Jose C | July 2, 2007 10:15 AM
space, Ana said flat out that she was "moving on" after this post. Her bosses apparently don't want this story covered anymore -- instead, Ana is going to obsess about an apparent clerical error in which a New York Times article was sent to the wrong email list.
***************
"Wow Ana, you're milking this Mitt Mutt thing for all you can get but you talk about Romney not being able to shut up about it. I'm sure you're pretty proud of the fact you managed to make a big deal about something that happened 24 YEARS AGO!!"
If Romney was saying that this incident was a lapse in judgement, it would be a non-story. But he's not -- he's claiming that its okay to put a dog into an enclused space with direct exposure to sunlight in the summer for hours and hours on end.
The dog was in a freaking OVEN.... he was so distressed that he got diarrhetic, and was forced to wallow in his own feces until it started dripping down the side of the car.
And after hosing the dog off, Mitt puts the dog BACK INTO the oven. No more "accidents" only because the dog had already completely voided itself.
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:17 AM
"And after hosing the dog off, Mitt puts the dog BACK INTO the oven. No more "accidents" only because the dog had already completely voided itself."
Do we actually know that Mr. "emotion-free crisis management style" took the dog out of the carrier to hose him down? Someone suggested on another thread that Seamus may have received the Bull Connors' clean up treatment.
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 10:21 AM
"...we love our family pets. Have always loved our family pets. And have nothing but honor and pride in taking care of great dogs. We've had quite a few."
You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, sautee it. There's, um, dog kebabs, dog creole, dog gumbo, pan fried, deep fried, stir fried. There's pineapple dog and lemon dog, coconut dog, pepper dog, dog soup, dog stew, dog salad, dog and potatoes, dog burger, dog sandwich... That's, that's about it.
Posted by Ottnott | July 2, 2007 10:24 AM
The dog was able to get on the roof of the car because Mitt has a flying dog.
Posted by obf | July 2, 2007 10:25 AM
My family has a number of Goldens. Unfortunately they eventually die around age 14-15. Has Romney had "quite a few dogs" because some died early because of the way they were treated?
Posted by Anonymous | July 2, 2007 10:25 AM
So Ana explain this:
If Romney had been driving with the dog would his staffer who likes to play policeman have arrested his boss?
Posted by I have many leatherbound books | July 2, 2007 10:27 AM
That is not a dog your holding there it's a mutt. As a mutt owner myself they are the best four legged friends you can have!
Posted by Ken | July 2, 2007 10:27 AM
here's the truly vital and important question for American Politcal Discourse: do the Guantanamo inmates have air vents, and when President Mitt doubles Guantanamo, will each and every combatant be guaranteed their air vent?
Posted by steev | July 2, 2007 10:30 AM
Sheeesh... the dog climbed up there on stairs made out of golden tablets.
Mitt should be "dogged" by this question until he weeps for forgiveness from baby Jesus.
Posted by Anonymous | July 2, 2007 10:32 AM
"That's, that's about it."
Ottnott,
You forgot dog on the half shell.
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 10:37 AM
p_luk:
There is a requirement that news be, you know, new.
Personally, I find this story to be macabrely (is that a word?) entertaining and great political theater.
That aside, there isn't much more for journalists to do other than (a) insert comical Mitt/Mutt jokes into entirely unconnected stories, much as they would a "Gore invented the internet" joke; (b) wait for a political opponent to try and get some mileage out of this story; or (c) wait for Mitt's camp to step into more doo-doo trying to extricate itself from this story.
I see Ana wringing choice "c" for all it is worth. At least wait until Ana STOPS posting about the story before complaining about a coverup.
Posted by space | July 2, 2007 10:41 AM
"You forgot dog on the half shell. "
....and that French fast food version
La Chien Royale au Fromage!
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:41 AM
He talks like the Coneheads.
Posted by Davis | July 2, 2007 10:42 AM
MITT - you are in deep SHITT. Time to QUITT, you dog-abusing TWITT! (Good work, Ana Marie)
Posted by Terry | July 2, 2007 10:46 AM
space....
I disagree. I think Ana should be "reporting" on this story, because of the bizarre contradictions of the various versions. Right now, she "owns" this story, and she should work it, because its a perfect fit for her (its not like she's competent to blog or report about actual issues, and putting her on this story has the added advantage of not having her trivialize more important stuff).
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:48 AM
Mitt Romney's worst nightmare?
Wind tunnel experiments.
Theres a Pulitzer in there in Ms Cox!
Posted by rk | July 2, 2007 10:51 AM
Is "family pet" trademarked or something? That was the oddest thing I've ever read. Maybe "family pet" is his nickname for his wife.
Posted by Southern Beale | July 2, 2007 10:53 AM
Okay, I'm not saying that Romney is aiming his campaign at stupid people.... but here is what the Romney "Five Brothers" blog uses to insure against automated comment spam....
"Please Answer: 3 + 1 = _________"
http://fivebrothers.mittromney.com/blog/comments/151
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 10:54 AM
'So I'll add this: those repeated references to "family pet"? '
good point. I think the Romney campaign is afraid of this story, to the point where Romney has been advised on how he needs to talk about this story -- and was told to emphasize the 'family pet' angle. So instead of saying "our dog" and "Seamus", he kept repeating "family pet" like some freaking automaton. There is also a hint of Mitt's authoritarian streak in the repeated use of that construction --- its a constant iteration of control and ownership.
The problem, of course, is that until he actually deals with all the questions this story has raised, each time he says "family pet" instead of 'Seamus', people immediately think of hou they would never treat their own "family pet" like that.
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 11:03 AM
space--
As long as the Romney's campaign, and/or his family keep trying to kill this story, it is still a story.
As p_l said, if Romney said that this was a long time ago, it was an error in judgment, and my dog currently has a special place in the back seat with a built in chew-toy, the story would be over.
Times have changed, of course, even since the mid80s. And do you remember the picture of LBJ holding his beagle up by the dog's ears?
The way to end these stories is to 'fess up and move on. Making up plainly false "details" and "explanations" is counterproductive. What is Ana supposed to do? Not report the denials?
Posted by jayackroyd | July 2, 2007 11:03 AM
I don't give a damn if it was 100 years a go. The SOB showed that he thought of his "family pet" as no more than a tent or bicycle you can strap to the roof.
Good for you, Ana, for keeping the story alive. People who are cruel to animals simply do not have the qualifications to be President. Or Governor. Shit, they aren't fit to be anything, really.
Posted by Tim | July 2, 2007 11:05 AM
Yes
Yes
Yes
We must not let it die!
We must work to drive Romney out of the race once and for all.
Only then will justice be done!
Posted by crusty | July 2, 2007 11:12 AM
Woof
Woof
Woof
(poop)
Posted by The Ghost of Romney's Dog | July 2, 2007 11:13 AM
Not only should we always keep the family dog in kennels atop the car, we should double the number of dog kennels atop cars.
Posted by Anon | July 2, 2007 11:16 AM
I wish Mitt Romney would just come out and admit that it was Tagg in the pet carrier.
We'd understand, there's no way he could fit himself, his wife and his five boys in a station wagon.
Posted by eb in nyc | July 2, 2007 11:16 AM
If Mitt can count his many hunting experiences (two) as being an avid hunter (wasn't one when he was a kid?), why is a story of animal cruelty not fair game now?
Posted by Scott | July 2, 2007 11:17 AM
jay:
yes, and until Ana STOPS posting about it, she is still covering it. Or are you saying that every iteration requires an entire article?
Okay, fine.
space's assignment desk: Ana, a meta-story on the historical press coverage of pet abuse by politicians. Data points: Romney, the LBJ example cited by Jay, and Bush dropping his dog on the tarmac to the horror of nearby children. As they say, three examples proves a trend. Plus, with LBJ, it is bipartisan.
Bonus points if you speculate on a correlation between "non-emotion" to pets and excessive militarism.
Double bonus points if you mention the childhood behaviors of serial killers.
Posted by space | July 2, 2007 11:19 AM
Does he really not know that there is no excuse or explanation that would make putting his pet on the roof of his car acceptable? Unless, that is, he's explaining it to someone who is just as much of an uncaring s**t as he is.
Posted by alien | July 2, 2007 11:19 AM
Why do all these Republicans freak out on animals, whether it be putting firecrackers in frog's mouths, an unhealthy fear of ferrets, or an inclination to strap the family dog to the roof of the car?
Posted by flounder | July 2, 2007 11:20 AM
Because they are evil neocons worthy only of impeachement!
Posted by crusty | July 2, 2007 11:21 AM
Yes, Tim, that's what would happen--people like you and, perhaps, me, would say that it doesn't matter how long ago this took place. It was still an awful thing to do, and to the degree that we learn about character by the way people treat their pets, we've learned something about Romney.
That would end the story. Nothing more to say. It is another display of idiotic incompetence that the campaign has managed to keep this story alive through the weekend before the Fourth.
And I cannot help but add that a hundred years ago, the US was still paying bounties for Indian scalps.
Posted by jayackroyd | July 2, 2007 11:23 AM
"Or are you saying that every iteration requires an entire article?"
Not at all. I'm saying that it's the Romney campaign that is keeping this alive--even if just as a blog post and comments here. How could CNN not cover this:
"“PETA has not been my fan over the years. PETA was after me for having a rodeo at the Olympics,” he said in reference to his role as chief executive of the 2002 Winter Games in Salt Lake City, Utah. “PETA was unhappy when I went quail hunting in Georgia, and they’re not happy that my dog likes fresh air.”"
It's Romney who is giving the story legs.
Posted by jayackroyd | July 2, 2007 11:28 AM
geez, I guess our wingnut spammers are in a teleconference or something.. over 50 comments, and no references to Robert Byrd and the KKK!
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 11:28 AM
Which is more offensive - - the dog's excrement or the crap that flows from K. J. Lopez's computer and onto NRO?
Posted by Barry in MIA | July 2, 2007 11:34 AM
SORRY, QH'S CAPSLOCK BUTTON IS BEING REPAIRED.
JON KERRY STRAPPED HIS DOG TO HIS WINDSURFER ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD.
JON KERRY STRAPPED HIS DOG TO HIS WINDSURFER ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD.
JON KERRY STRAPPED HIS DOG TO HIS WINDSURFER ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD.
JON KERRY STRAPPED HIS DOG TO HIS WINDSURFER ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD.
JON KERRY STRAPPED HIS DOG TO HIS WINDSURFER ON MARTHA'S VINEYARD.
Posted by ACTING WINGNUT | July 2, 2007 11:36 AM
the mitt romney we all see on hear on the campaign trail is a robot of some kind. the real mitt romney is a seriously mentally deranged freakazoid. the guy is totally and completely off his rocker. its not just that he's a huge phony with no core identity whatsoever...or wait, maybe that is it. i don't know, but no matter what kind of doggy palace he had strapped to the roof of the car, it was still STRAPPED TO THE ROOF OF THE CAR!!! that dog was scared to death every time the car stoppped, started, turned, swerved etc. it must have driven itself nuts trying to maintain balance in a plastic box on top of a car, sliding around all over the place and all that. jesus christ that poor poochie! mitt, you're seriously nuts. nuts. you're nuts.
Posted by itsbenj | July 2, 2007 11:36 AM
Good observation, flounder. Not to mention Bill "Kitty Kevorkian" Frist's loving care of cats and kittens he "adopted" and then used for surgery practice on his kitchen table.
And John Ashcroft's preternatural fear around calico cats (i.e. agents of Satan).
The entire Republican party is beginning to resemble a bad Stephen King novel.
Chapter Two: Mitt wakes up with ectoplasmatic dog poo in his bed, and his horrified screams shatters the calm night of his gated community.
"Seeeeeeaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmuuuuuuuussssssss!!!!!!!!"
You see, sometimes THEY COME BACK.
Posted by Sharoney | July 2, 2007 11:38 AM
What's it with Romneys? His father was brainwashed and Mitt has carwashed.
Posted by ecoast | July 2, 2007 11:39 AM
"He called the sh1t 'poop.'"
Posted by Billy Madison | July 2, 2007 11:46 AM
IMPEACH THEM ALL NOW!
Go to the Daily Kos to find out how!
Posted by crusty | July 2, 2007 11:50 AM
What is it about these guys and animals, anyway? Here's another fine, upstanding right-winger showing his dachshund just who's boss:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2004_12_12_digbysblog_archive.html#110340303838806609
Posted by Mitch | July 2, 2007 11:53 AM
My friend, an avid dog lover, kept defending Romney when evidence of his shady character kept coming up. Since learning of Mitt's decision to strap his dog's carrier to the family car for a 12 hour drive, something one does with LIVESTOCK (and "varmints"), not the "family pet," slick Mitt lost a defender.
Mitt's a salesman and a spinner but this can't be spun.
Maybe he doesn't name the dog 'cause of the ol' saying about not naming one's horse out in the ol' West: you don't name what you might have to eat.
Five kids, a 12 hour trip, who knows what might have gone wrong. But hosed down livestock strapped to the roof shows Mitt's prepared for the worst...
Posted by A Dog Lover | July 2, 2007 11:57 AM
Swampmistress, see what happens when you leave us alone for a weekend...the wingnuts find us and try to turn the thread into cultish mush. p_luk, james/la, jayackroyd, etc., tried valiantly to fend them off; however, they will always walk among us.
I'm with those above who think you should be on the phone to Romney's office every two hours for their, um, updates on this.
Nice lookin' pooch.
I'm going away next week and in an orgy of Republicanism am going to strap the scottie to the roof and drive to California and vivisect my cats before I go. Wheee!
Posted by joanbeach4 | July 2, 2007 11:58 AM
Does anyone else find this picture of Romney's wife with a horse a tad...um... Equus-ey?
http://fivebrothers.mittromney.com/blog/comments/63
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 12:01 PM
Move on? Why should we move on?
"Let's move on" is what people say when they really mean: "This subject is embarrassing to me or to someone I support, and I would really like to distract everyone's attention by changing the subject."
Posted by nemo | July 2, 2007 12:04 PM
Mitt Romney "shady character" indeed: http://havenworks.com/people/a-z/r/romney-willard-mitt
Posted by Dog Lover | July 2, 2007 12:04 PM
The real news about Seamus is that Romney's people believe the story cost him campaign contributions, which he had to make up personally. Is this a great country or what?
http://ajliebling.blogspot.com/2007/06/media-mania-over-mitts-mutts-mishap.html
Posted by Robert Stein | July 2, 2007 12:05 PM
"Posted by Evan
July 2, 2007"
Good point Evan, because it's simply not possible to walk and chew gum at the same time.
If the media can spend two weeks talking about a haircut, then surely it can spend two weeks talking about animal abuse by a major party presidential candidate.
Posted by Ferruge | July 2, 2007 12:18 PM
Nobody could have anticipated that al Qaeda was determined to strap Irish Setters on top of cars.
Posted by Sacanagem | July 2, 2007 12:53 PM
Robert Stein,
Since the Boston Globe article just came out last week and was AMPLIFIED by Ana Marie and others, do you really think the Romney folks believe the story has affected their contributions that much already since it appeared at the end of the 2nd quarter?
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 12:54 PM
Romney is a clown, but why not talk about his ever-changing positions instead of focusing on this ridiculous trivia?
No wonder people think the mainstream media stinks-it does! Wait-look over there! John Edwards is getting a $400 haircut! Wait-what's that!? Ooooh, a shiny ball of tinfoil!
Posted by JUPITER8 | July 2, 2007 1:01 PM
Why, Ann Marie, would you let a story that calls the mental state of a Presidential candidate into question die?
This is a much more important story than it appears. Perhaps you should be contacting some mental health professionals to get their take on what would possess someone to do this to a helpless dog?
I appreciate you bringing this story to light, and putting it into the appropriate context, but to let it die so easily is weak at best.
Better to follow up. Find out what a shrink would say about a man who tortures hapless animals.
Posted by jerry 101 | July 2, 2007 1:02 PM
Jupiter,
His position keeps changing on this story too. It perfectly exemplifies what Mr. "emotion-free crisis management style" is all about.
Got a crappy problem to be solved?
Bring on the appropriate sized water hose, and Mitt will wash away the problems of the world--without breaking a sweat or any pangs of conscious.
I mean, didn't he recommend doubling GITMO?
Just build bigger hoses!
It's all about emotion-free crisis management, doncha know? And then the subsequent necessity of softening the pointy edges of the Roof Rider story here and there.
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 1:09 PM
"This is a much more important story than it appears. Perhaps you should be contacting some mental health professionals to get their take on what would possess someone to do this to a helpless dog?"
The real question isn't what would possess someone to do this (the answer is "stupidity") but what kind of person would not recognize that their dog was so distressed by the experience that it emptied its bowels in its own cage?
People do stupid stuff all the time --- and can be unintentionally cruel. It the failure to acknowledge the studpidity and the undeniable evidence that the dog suffered that raises the questions regarding Romney's character.
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 1:29 PM
Part of what makes this story so astounding is how obvious it is that Romney, his people, and the reporter who wrote the original story all started off thinking that this story reflected well on Romney.
What's wrong with those people? And I don't just mean Mitt Romney.
Posted by nemo | July 2, 2007 1:44 PM
there was a separate pooper on the grassy knoll.
Posted by Anonymous | July 2, 2007 1:51 PM
"And do you remember the picture of LBJ holding his beagle up by the dog's ears?"
As a kid I met those dogs and petted each one through the White House fence. They were very nice dogs.
When I saw that photo of LBJ holding them by the ears I was horrified and hated him with my first passion (I was pretty young).
What Romney did to his "beloved family pet" is on the orders of several hundred times magnitude of cruelty and it should be hammered into everyone head how thoughtless and heartless this automaton truly is.
Posted by Gindy | July 2, 2007 1:52 PM
"why not talk about his ever-changing positions instead of focusing on this ridiculous trivia?"
Because everyone can relate to this story and most people do not have the time to wallow through all that idiot's changing positions. This sticks like the crap dripping down the back of the car windshield.
Posted by Gindy | July 2, 2007 1:55 PM
Would you people feel better if Mitt had pulled over, shot the dog, hurled it kennel and all into a dumpster and then pulled into a Puppy Palace store and picked up a new Golden Retriever on the way back to Massachusetts?
What do you do with an animal completely covered in feces but hose it down?
Still, there's no reason he could not have just put the dog in the way-back with the oldest kid, though the other boys would have been jealous that he got to hug the dog and stuff during the trip.
Posted by The Eagle of the Alleghenies | July 2, 2007 1:55 PM
"or any pangs of conscious."
or "conscience" either! :)
Posted by ama | July 2, 2007 2:00 PM
"What's wrong with those people? And I don't just mean Mitt Romney."
Someone suggested that the Globe writers understood exactly how damaging the story would be -- which is why it was the first anecdote in a very long profile, and they used the phrase "a tiny preview of a trait he would grow famous for in business: emotion-free crisis management".
The reporters couldn't say what they may have concluded --- that Romney is a sociopath --- so they start their piece by describing a family crisis that demanded an emotional response, and then relating it to a "business crisis."
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 2:01 PM
SAVE MUTT ROMNEY !!
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Free the Romney 1 !!
Posted by Chuck | July 2, 2007 2:07 PM
A perfectly despicable end-note for the campaign of Mr. "Double Guantanamo."
Posted by Earl Scheib | July 2, 2007 2:08 PM
Apparently he's had several run-ins with PETA.
http://www.thepittsburghchannel.com/politics/13589980/detail.html
What kind of an a**hole does this and then...brings it up!! again and again. Duurrroooy!
Mr. Double-Gitmo, throw in the towel.
Posted by StirFry | July 2, 2007 2:19 PM
I am disgusted at the way our leaders and candidates are incapable of addressing instead of redirecting criticism. PETA's complaint about possible cruelty or mistreatment to an animal is recast to a charge that PETA didn't want Tagg to get fresh air. This inability to respond directly to a criticism is typical. If he can't handle a relatively simple response to explain his behavior, I feel certain he will accuse the Democrats of being traitors or terrorist sympathizers if they don't salute at every dunderheaded misstep he makes (if he gets elected). The Republican creed seems to be: "When in doubt, either blame or insult the messenger or make him look stupid or unreasonable."
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. George Orwell warned us about doublespeak.
Posted by Ric | July 2, 2007 2:22 PM
"a tiny preview of a trait he would grow famous for in business: emotion-free crisis management".
Mitt displays in this little story the sort of "emotion-free crisis management" one might find on a railway siding near Auschwitz in the sweltering summer of 1943.
The banality of evil on display.
Posted by Apprentice to Darth Holden | July 2, 2007 2:22 PM
You guys remind me of a bunch of Clinton haters going nuts over the latest non-scandal.
If the dog was as terrified as you guys are suggesting, then the dog would have resisted getting into its cage later on. Since Mrs. Romney has said that the dog got into its kennel willingly once it was on top of the car and there are no independent observers to say otherwise, I think we ought to take her word for it until the day other witnesses contradict her. Frankly, I don't see the dog's situation as being significantly worse than a dog having to ride in the back of a pickup truck so long as the kennel was securely fastened.
Also, the term "family pets," which Ms. Cox finds so suspicious, arguably make sense if the Romneys had more than one pet and wanted to indicate that they were all treated humanely. I'm sure we can dismiss this and continue using the phrase as evidence against Romney as no well-to-do family has ever had more than one family pet.
As for the Romneys not letting it go, if you were accused of abusing the family pet wouldn't you want to thoroughly refute it, even if the accusataion was untrue?
Romney's a jerk and doesn't deserve to be president but this issue is a waste of time.
Posted by Hieronymus Braintree | July 2, 2007 2:43 PM
Romney's making up stuff to cover up what should have been just be a minor embarrassment IS the story now.
Posted by syvanen | July 2, 2007 2:49 PM
If it's a closed carrier, with no windows, then why did he "fashion a windshield"?
Posted by Terri | July 2, 2007 2:53 PM
This is my first time over here, attracted, as it were, my the Mutt Story. All I can say is- Wow, what a thread! This is hilarious... I didn't realize how much of a snow ball for Mitt this was. Why do they keep changing the story on it? Why are they making shit up?
Posted by elvisgoat | July 2, 2007 2:54 PM
I climb into my bed each night, but that doesn't mean I want to be in it flying down the highway strapped to the roof of a car! I also do not crap my bed or myself during moments of glee.
Romney makes me want to crap.
Posted by Doug Alston | July 2, 2007 2:58 PM
Mutt Romney! LOL
Has Mu...Mitt chosen a campaign song yet?
My submission is sung to the tune of Kate Smith's "God Bless America" (the definitive version to be sure).
Dog bless America
See our land from above
Our roof rack rider
Safely astride our
Station wagon, tail’s a’waggin’
Now ain’t that love?
Don’t need pit stops
Don’t need heaters
Shit just happens
Leave me be!
Dog bless America
And vote for ME!!
Posted by LanceThruster | July 2, 2007 3:06 PM
"If the dog was as terrified as you guys are suggesting, then the dog would have resisted getting into its cage later on. Since Mrs. Romney has said that the dog got into its kennel willingly once it was on top of the car and there are no independent observers to say otherwise, I think we ought to take her word for it until the day other witnesses contradict her."
we know the dog was terrified.... dogs don't evacuate their bowels in their cages for no reason.
and, you should read Ann Romney's statement more closely. She said that Seamus WALKED into the carrier.... which means that she is not talking about the carrier being on the roof.
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 3:09 PM
Who cares, Romney is going nowhere.
A morman republican president, ya, not in this theocracy.
Posted by ScottW | July 2, 2007 3:13 PM
The scariest thing was the comment at the end of the Romney story: "And we love our family pets. Have always loved our family pets. And have nothing but honor and pride in taking care of great dogs. We've had quite a few."
I bet they have had quite a few. The old ones keep dying. Puzzling thing, that.
Remarks like this are so outer spacey that one wonders if Romney is our first alien candidate.
Posted by roger | July 2, 2007 3:19 PM
"As for the Romneys not letting it go, if you were accused of abusing the family pet wouldn't you want to thoroughly refute it, even if the accusataion was untrue? "
the problem is that they are NOT refuting it...
read what Romney said above. All he said was "the critics got a detail wrong. We love our family pets."
The problem is that the people assumed that the carrier was open, because it required a windshield --- and that high winds were among the factors that distressed the dog. So Romney corrects us, but doing so in a way that makes the situation worse, IMHO... exposed to direct summer sun, the dog carrier would turn into an OVEN.
Romney refuses to address is the essential cruelty of the act itself ---- he never addresses the OBVIOUS fact that dogs don't evacuate their bowels for no reason....
Posted by p_lukasiak | July 2, 2007 3:23 PM
Either the dog was terrified or the dog had the runs. Either way it shouldn't have been there. At the very least (happy as a clam and just as fine as the back of a pickup, and even better 'cause it couldn't just hop out), the dog should have been walked. The original story didn't say that they took the dog down and dried him off, either. Just hosed the dog, the carrier and the car down (why not just run the whole thing through a carwash, oh, efficient crisis dude?) and whipped back onto the highway.
Probably left crap all over the driveway, too....
Posted by atablarasa | July 2, 2007 3:33 PM
Mitt Romney will make a great President.
For me to poop on.
Triumph
Posted by Triumph the insult dog | July 2, 2007 3:34 PM
Who is the anorexic lady with the dog? She looks terribly unhealthy and scrawny, like a refugee from a Nazi concentration camp. Whoever she is, get that lady a cheeseburger!
Posted by Max Edison | July 2, 2007 3:49 PM
i.e., "we put him in one of those 'ovens' you saw in 'Cool Hand Luke.' If it was good enough for Steve McQueen, it was good enough for a pooch.'
Not explained: How the animal's waste escaped the sealed enclosure. They just spin, spin, spin and the story gets less believable all the time. We need pictures now.
Memo to Mutt: When you're in a hole,... oh, hell, keep digging you dog hater. How big can the dog loving electorate be, anyway?
Posted by AlphaLiberal | July 2, 2007 4:15 PM
You don't have to be a Democrat to be turned off Mitt Romney by his cruelty to animals. I'm a fiscal conservative, which in some years translates to Republican. And I could never stomach this man after reading the story about the dog.
The facts -- the dog was isolated and alone, during a 12 hour ride at highway speeds. If not the wind, at a minimum it could feel the extreme motion, both linear motion and the pull of turns. For much of the trip, it was also wet. Based on the results, it was either sick or terrified. Dogs never soil their own crates unless something is VERY wrong.
Mitt's spin doesn't sound honest either. If the crate just had vents -- (1)how did he hose the dog down through it, (2)how did the fecal matter run out of it? Also, an Irish setter is not able to jump onto the roof of a car. And I have never met a dog who wouldn't rather be in the car with his people, especially a hunting dog like a setter.
The family's spin sounds like lies. And I don't think they should get away with it. I don't think this story should die. Let the Blogosphere do some digging. Contact the vet, for instance, and ask about the dog's medical history. And ask about their other pets. How long did they live? Get in touch with former neighbors and acquaintances and ask about their treatment of animals.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by American Daughter | July 2, 2007 5:40 PM
NO mention of any BEDDING on the bottom of the carrier being washed out -- I wonder why that is?
When the drive got really boring, Mitt would swerve back and forth over the center divider to make his kids scream.
Look, this was all in good fun. Don't heathen understand fun?
And COX? What kind of name is COX?
(It makes Mitt feel funny where mommy used to whip him).
Posted by Paul in LA | July 2, 2007 6:04 PM
"we know the dog was terrified.... dogs don't evacuate their bowels in their cages for no reason."
Obviously you never heard of diarrhea, which, based on my experience can occur unexpectedly at any time.
"and, you should read Ann Romney's statement more closely. She said that Seamus WALKED into the carrier.... which means that she is not talking about the carrier being on the roof."
Nonsense. They could have walked the dog over the front of the car or the dog could have jumped up on the roof from the back gate of a statioin wagon. Seems to me it would have been a lot easier to get the dog in the kennel that way rather than lifting it up after the dog is in it.
"The problem is that the people assumed that the carrier was open, because it required a windshield --- and that high winds were among the factors that distressed the dog. So Romney corrects us, but doing so in a way that makes the situation worse, IMHO... exposed to direct summer sun, the dog carrier would turn into an OVEN."
Are you kidding me? Driving down the highway at 60 MPH? Give me a break. As someone who has ridden in the back of a pickup truck, let me assure you that roasting is not an issue.
With a windsheild this carrier would have done quite nicely.
http://www.pet-dog-cat-supply-store.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-18473-1b4bcf402d9c2d5fb1f108ef379d498d&ps_session=ba53a5e48617276dbdd1a7c58225ace3
There's nothing that pleases my eyes so much as an unimpeccably englightened lynch mob.
Honestly, you guys are no better than wing nuts. Please stop your hyperventilating.
It's because of stuff like this that I despise liberals even though I am one myself. Can't imagine where we got our reputation for stridency.
Posted by Hieronymus Braintree | July 2, 2007 6:11 PM
Yeah, riding in a pickup is just like being in a plastic box on top of a car. So where does the poop come from in one of these? The dog puts its butt up to the vents and judges the wind before letting go? Jeez, if Seamus was that clever, I'd expect Mitt would rather have had him inside the car, pooping out, than outside the car, pooping in. (Thanks and a tip of the Stetson to LBJ.)
Mitt probably strapped the dog to a board before hosing it down, and ran water on it until it promised never to poop again. Stopping short of organ damage, of course.
As to the "family pet" mantra, that's a magic-word appeal to family values, and the dog whippers at Focus on the Family.
Posted by Kip W | July 2, 2007 7:02 PM
The Globe article says Mitt absolutely wouldn't stop the car for his kids on long trips. If Mrs. Romney needed a rest room he'd stop as soon as possible. But all the five Romney kids had to take their breaks during the time it took to fill the car's gas tank.
Romney does sound like a jerk, but the Globe writers didn't do him any favor with their weird viewpoint. They seemed to think Mitt's problem wasn't baking-hot, terrified, miserable Seamus pooping on the car; it was (1) his kids whining about the poop, and (2) removing the poop when the gas tank was full and Mrs. Romney didn't need to go. They approve the "cool crisis management" Mitt showed in stopping the car and washing off the poop!
Posted by Year of the Rat | July 2, 2007 7:39 PM
I will put my family pet in a lockbox.
Posted by Al Gore | July 2, 2007 11:03 PM
"Used to"? Gee, wonder what happened?
Posted by DT | July 3, 2007 4:03 AM
I sometimes need a reminder why I cancelled my subscription to TIME, and here it is.
Why don't we argue both sides of the issue, they both seem to work for the stellar minds here. Either:
1. Romney's dog was inhumanely exposed to the elements.
2. Romney's dog was inhumanely sheltered from the elements.
Most dog carriers I know of have open wire doors with side vents. The RAM air from the speed of the vehicle would provide ample air flow while also providing ventilation, making it quite impossible for the interior of the carrier to overheat. At the same time, if the carrier were pointed rearward, the dog would not be exposed to the direct airflow or debris from the highway. The rearfacing door and force of air would also allow feces to possibly find their way out of the carrier. Is this rocket science?
But none of you actually believe any of this because if you did you'd be daily protesting the hundreds of thousands of cattle, hogs, horses, and other animals that are transported in much more exposed, and feces-ridden conditions each and every day.
Real animal cruelty is leaving a dog in solitary confinement in an apartment all day long, only taking it outside to do its business and then taking it back inside to live an atrophied existence as a piece of furniture.
Oh, and nice family photo Ms. Cox. Very natural looking. But just for future reference, people with families have "family pets." In families, pets are not "children" or "partners" or "babies" or even "best friends." Family pets are loved, enjoyed and cherished PETS, nothing more, nothing less.
Posted by sloagm | July 3, 2007 10:03 AM
OBVIOUSLY THIS MAN DOES NOT THINK...NOR DOES HE DESERVE TO HAVE A FAMILY PET AS A COMPANION. I, FOR ONE WILL NEVER, EVER TRUST THIS MAN OR HIS JUDGEMENT IN ANY SITUATION.
Posted by CHRISTINA DEETJEN | July 3, 2007 9:52 PM
IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT MITT ROMNEY AND HIS MORMON RELIGION STAND, DO THIS, TAKE OUT THE SECOND ( M ) FROM THE WORD MORMON, ,AND SEE WHAT YOU GET.? M.O.R.O.N .
THE REPUBLICANS ARE DEATH DUCKS, AND THEY KNOW IT. THE REPUBLICANS ARE RUNNING LIKE A HELL NOW FROM BUSHYYY, SCARE TO DEATH ,BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OUT IN THE NEXT ELECTION 2008,ALL RATS ARE DESERTING THE SHIP. EVEN THE SENATOR FROM NEW MEXICO, DOMINICH IS NOW AGAINST BUSHY, THIS
GUY WAS ALLWAY 100% VOTING WITH BUSH, HE WAS 100% FOR THIS WAR, AND NOW HE IS TALKING LIKE A DEMOCRATS, WE MUST GET OUT OF IRAQ, WHAT ? WHO HE IS KIDDING, AND GO FOR ALL REPUBLICANS WHO WILL BE FACING RE-ELECTION .NEXT YEAR,2008. THAT IS WAY THEY ARE TURNING AGAINST BUSHY, BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT THEY WILL LOSE , AND ARE SCARE
TO DEATH , IS ALL FAKE, THEY STILL LOVE BUSH ,AND THIS WAR, BUT FIRTS THEY LOVE MORE, TO BE RE-ELECTED. SO THEY ALL LIERS AND FAKERS, THEY WANT TO SAVE THEIR SKIN, ALL IN THE LIFEBOAT .TITANIC IS SINKING .
Posted by SEVERIO NESICH | July 9, 2007 11:01 AM
I am truly sickened to hear of this abuse. Whitewash it any way you want, Mitt, this WAS abuse. Shame on you...
Posted by PMK | July 9, 2007 1:50 PM
SLOGAM,youre an idiot who cares how the pet container was designed. It would have been better for him to put it in the back of the station wagon. I grew up with one, I know how much room is in one. They could have had 3 in the front seat, 3 in the back seat and one in the back and still room for the dog. In the old station wagons where pop up seat for the kids. So your an idiot again I say SLOGAN...and my dog is just another pet, but loved more as a child. As for the containers the poor cattle and livestock are transportated in yeah, why don't you write to your congress and to Mit whom you love so dearly and complain
Posted by Alyx | July 27, 2007 8:26 PM
Yeah!
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shut up
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